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RainDog

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44. This gets into problematic views of what constitutes intent to distribute
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 08:58 AM
Jun 2013

Someone doesn't have to actually sell marijuana in order to be charged with doing the same.

The law moves to felony possession (with intent to distribute) based upon the amount of marijuana in someone's possession.

If someone, once a year, grew marijuana and saved that for personal use, that person could be charged with intent to distribute, depending upon the state in which someone lived. The law isn't just "sale." It's "sale/manufacture." So, growing marijuana, without intent to sell or any evidence for the same is the same as selling.

What happens to a person after an arrest for possession is determined by the state in which they were arrested. As of 2010, iirc, there are about 40 thousand people in prison related to marijuana alone - and, again, the state determines how charges are considered - what charges are filed, how long someone serves time, if any, for an offense, and so on. But, again, these numbers don't really get to an accurate count because other charges (i.e. in jail for possession alone) aren't necessarily for other drugs or intent to sale, either.

Laws also have cumulative effect. The three strikes law means that someone arrested for possession three times is at greater risk than a first-time arrest for jail time.

More than 750,000 people a year are arrested for possession. This means that once every 37 seconds someone in the U.S. is arrested for possession.

According to norml - "The total number of marijuana arrests for 2010 far exceeded the combined number of arrests for violent crimes, including murder, manslaughter, forcible rape, robbery and aggravated assault."

It's comforting to know that most Americans aren't killing, raping, robbing and assaulting their fellow citizens.

It's outrageous that so much time and effort is put into arresting someone for possession. It's a waste of money and it's against the wishes of the American public to treat fellow citizens as criminals because they are in possession of cannabis.

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friends of tobacco do not want legalized pot, especially if it is home grown nt msongs Jun 2013 #1
I don't think it's the friends of tobacco as much as it is the Friends of Pharma. dflprincess Jun 2013 #3
And the cops and the forced treatment industry and the drug testing industry... Comrade Grumpy Jun 2013 #4
You make two very good points WHEN CRABS ROAR Jun 2013 #6
Well, all the people have homes, food, safe neighborhoods, ZombieHorde Jun 2013 #2
Its Change-- You can believe IN warrant46 Jun 2013 #31
$283 Million over 4 years equals 1,283 Jobs at an annual cost of $50,000 each FrodosPet Jun 2013 #5
I've defended the Obama administration over many different issues cheapdate Jun 2013 #7
These are Obama appointees. former9thward Jun 2013 #12
Ormsby and Haag are indeed Obama appointees. cheapdate Jun 2013 #18
The war on marijuana is insane. former9thward Jun 2013 #20
Bush doesn't count. Half-Century Man Jun 2013 #22
Besides with his impaired mind, there would be no difference if he did drugs. nm rhett o rick Jun 2013 #23
If you get impaired by marijuana Half-Century Man Jun 2013 #24
Well do you ever get enough "practice". Just sayin. rhett o rick Jun 2013 #25
I just experimented with marijuana Half-Century Man Jun 2013 #28
I say if we keep this war on drugs up Politicalboi Jun 2013 #62
For what it's worth (not much) cheapdate Jun 2013 #63
After all the news these past couple of weeks, Unknown Beatle Jun 2013 #8
This wasn't even an issue during the 2012 presidential campaign Freddie Stubbs Jun 2013 #36
Obama is a serf to BIG PHARMA (and booze lobby) alittlelark Jun 2013 #9
LOL warrant46 Jun 2013 #32
Did this exceed the amount saved by cutting back on food stamps? AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2013 #10
No - house wants to cut 20 Billion over 10 years FreeState Jun 2013 #16
This has been one of Obama's most spectacular failures villager Jun 2013 #11
Yeah...Obama's a Liberal...LOL SHRED Jun 2013 #13
He campaigned as a centrist Freddie Stubbs Jun 2013 #35
I know SHRED Jun 2013 #40
In 2008, Willamette Week asked candidate Obama this: Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #14
Thats not the only example unfortunately n/t FreeState Jun 2013 #17
Apparently serving as President has caused him to evolve on some issues Freddie Stubbs Jun 2013 #34
If going back on one's word is the definition of 'evolve' then yes. Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #43
So how much did the previous administration spend? Historic NY Jun 2013 #15
The Obama Admin has outspent the Bush Admin by $100 million in just 4.5 years progressoid Jun 2013 #50
Follow the money. It is always about the money. BlueStreak Jun 2013 #19
Waste of time and money Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2013 #21
K&R DeSwiss Jun 2013 #26
That is not only obscene, it is cruel, vindictive, and disgusting. MotherPetrie Jun 2013 #27
Hey at least they aren't using their TIA on us yet. dkf Jun 2013 #29
And a couple billion more locking up a bunch of smokers. Scuba Jun 2013 #30
How many are locked up in federal prison for being 'smokers' as opposed to those who are selling it? Freddie Stubbs Jun 2013 #33
Why would it matter? Scuba Jun 2013 #37
Quite a big difference between locking up sick people trying to deal with an illness as opposed to Freddie Stubbs Jun 2013 #38
A distinction without a difference. Someone has to be the one morningfog Jun 2013 #51
This gets into problematic views of what constitutes intent to distribute RainDog Jun 2013 #44
This is a discussion on FEDERAL law, not state law Freddie Stubbs Jun 2013 #48
LOL RainDog Jun 2013 #49
The cruelty... Alkene Jun 2013 #39
Yet the quality AND quantity of Medical Marijuana dispensaries has exploded since Obama took office. tridim Jun 2013 #41
Can you support your assertions? Of course not. Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #45
then you'd also have to thank Reagan for hybrids RainDog Jun 2013 #46
Why on earth would we thank the greatest obstacle to progress without Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #53
Because the fact I just posted proves he is NOT an obstacle to progress. tridim Jun 2013 #57
That you, I believe, actually think that what you wrote is true is pretty scary. Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #58
Why do you disagree with facts? tridim Jun 2013 #59
That you not only deny the facts regarding the actions of his administration regarding Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #60
he heaven05 Jun 2013 #42
Let me ask you this.... CanSocDem Jun 2013 #47
I feel so much safer being protected from all those sick people. Thanks, Obama! forestpath Jun 2013 #52
Imagine all the good that money could have done. /nt Ash_F Jun 2013 #54
Big brother using its muscle to prevent the alleviation of pain and suffering fbo big pharma, indepat Jun 2013 #55
I think are pushing the issue to the limit leftyladyfrommo Jun 2013 #56
No financial cliff in sight. But Obama will get his Catfood Commission to chop up the safety net. blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #61
What an insanely stupid priority. Not too mention an obscene waste of tax payers' $$$$. SammyWinstonJack Jun 2013 #64
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