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leveymg

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61. In statistics and economics, it's referred to as a "self-selection bias" problem:
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 12:39 PM
Jun 2013

You don't have to suppose intentionality to explain the problem that continues to plague the party, along with most other institutions in America today:

Here's a short working definition in Wiki:



In statistics, self-selection bias arises in any situation in which individuals select themselves into a group, causing a biased sample with nonprobability sampling. It is commonly used to describe situations where the characteristics of the people which cause them to select themselves in the group create abnormal or undesirable conditions in the group.

Self-selection bias is a major problem in research in sociology, psychology, economics and many other social sciences.[1] In such fields, a poll suffering from such bias is termed a self-selecting opinion poll or "SLOP".[2] The term is also used in criminology to describe the process by which specific predispositions may lead an offender to choose a criminal career and lifestyle.

While the effects of self-selection bias are closely related to those of selection bias, the problem arises for rather different reasons; thus there may be a purposeful intent on the part of respondents leading to self-selection bias whereas other types of selection bias may arise more inadvertently, possibly as the result of mistakes by those designing any given study.



In Democratic politics, this is what it looks like:



But, this is the relationship of influence that it really goes back to:



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Obama: I’m not Dick Cheney [View all] Faygo Kid Jun 2013 OP
COOL.President Obama is cool. +1 million. May his agenda go on for many terms after his two terms. graham4anything Jun 2013 #1
sometimes I think you cannot be for real Skittles Jun 2013 #8
He's for real. Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #18
Sometimes? quakerboy Jun 2013 #20
it's so over-the-top ridiculous Skittles Jun 2013 #22
No, he just turns it up to 11, ya see. Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #37
LOVE Spinal Tap Skittles Jun 2013 #42
or maybe we can get a progressive/liberal democrat instead of more moderate republican crap nt msongs Jun 2013 #14
Remarkable resemblance Dick Cheney and Major Arnold Toht Xipe Totec Jun 2013 #2
This movie character also comes to mind with that shot of Cheney. leveymg Jun 2013 #51
Then there's this shot of the real Dick Cheney showing where his soul leaking out lunatica Jun 2013 #72
That's true... HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #3
Bingo. 840high Jun 2013 #32
Stop quacking like that duck tblue Jun 2013 #33
I've notice pursuant to corporate media Iliyah Jun 2013 #4
Why isn't the media reporting on the differences between the Bush/Cheney era programs and the Obama/ okaawhatever Jun 2013 #5
The media no longer does details. JoePhilly Jun 2013 #10
+1000 Atman Jun 2013 #26
The distinctions are too fine to print. Eddie Haskell Jun 2013 #56
yeah, I'll say what I will about PBO.. Cha Jun 2013 #6
"I'm not Dick Cheney." OnyxCollie Jun 2013 #7
The post after yours is a duplicate. JoePhilly Jun 2013 #11
"I'm not Dick Cheney!" Hydra Jun 2013 #9
The post above yours is a duplicate. JoePhilly Jun 2013 #12
lmao...guess it was just too obvious to both of us at the same time Hydra Jun 2013 #27
its damage control..or an attempt..but ya gotta hand it to him, he does that stay ahead of the curve xiamiam Jun 2013 #13
Excellent and timely call. kickysnana Jun 2013 #15
That would be too much. dkf Jun 2013 #29
Crook = Cheney, so in essence he did say it. tblue Jun 2013 #34
Quite the photo BeyondGeography Jun 2013 #16
obama has a heart.... madrchsod Jun 2013 #17
Oh, that's just silly, of course Cheney has a heart. Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #19
Haven't you heard? Jamastiene Jun 2013 #49
Too bad he's the one that has to say it. ucrdem Jun 2013 #21
If you have to say it... Daemonaquila Jun 2013 #23
Yup. Turns my stomach that he needs to say it. tblue Jun 2013 #35
Yep. Brigid Jun 2013 #44
I see Obama couldn't resist getting in a dig at liberals which kind of undermines forestpath Jun 2013 #24
Even if you're not Dick Chaney.... socialist_n_TN Jun 2013 #25
And I already know who it will be. tblue Jun 2013 #36
Yep. I was thinking about Jebbie myself..... socialist_n_TN Jun 2013 #48
And did you ever think The prez would need to say that? dkf Jun 2013 #28
He has only himself to blame . Leontius Jun 2013 #40
Because he's being accused of it? treestar Jun 2013 #69
Did Charlie Rose bring it up or did he? dkf Jun 2013 #70
He brought it up in context treestar Jun 2013 #71
His presidency is collapsing Doctor_J Jun 2013 #30
Not yet. But he needs to reverse course... HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #39
He seems completely lost Doctor_J Jun 2013 #47
Wash Post article: Obama says administration making ‘right trade-offs’ in surveillance programs alp227 Jun 2013 #31
LOL! President declares his heart "at least 15 shades lighter" than Dick Cheney's. Poll_Blind Jun 2013 #38
It used to be - "Hope and Change" -- now it's - "I'm not as bad as Cheney." Douglas Carpenter Jun 2013 #41
+1 I used to be a fan of surrealism, from Dali to Beksinski. This administration has given... Poll_Blind Jun 2013 #45
Conservative Democrats define internal contradictions and cognitive dissonance. leveymg Jun 2013 #53
Oh, but they do understand. They understand everything they do. They're working for... Poll_Blind Jun 2013 #57
In statistics and economics, it's referred to as a "self-selection bias" problem: leveymg Jun 2013 #61
Yeah... MrMickeysMom Jun 2013 #43
Obama fancies himself another Reagan, I suspect. blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #46
Thanks! Scurrilous Jun 2013 #50
That photo gives me the chills. eom Frustratedlady Jun 2013 #52
"If looks could kill . . ." leveymg Jun 2013 #54
Then why is Obama carrying out his agenda? Eddie Haskell Jun 2013 #55
+1 Octafish Jun 2013 #58
Interesting Eddie Haskell Jun 2013 #65
That was a good interview BTW. femmocrat Jun 2013 #59
That remark brings to mind another president and his now famous quote. Beacool Jun 2013 #60
He just denied being a "liberal" and endorsed the surveillance policies! Myrina Jun 2013 #62
"NO ONE has been forced to put their face in a rat cage!" MisterP Jun 2013 #63
No, Mr. President, you are not Dick, but.... Lefty Nast Jun 2013 #64
The bar doesn't have a lower setting, Mr. President. n/t Orsino Jun 2013 #66
Sadly agreed. As someone intoned upthread, it's suspiciously close to an "I'm not a crook" moment. Poll_Blind Jun 2013 #67
Cheney knows that Obama knows what has transpired for the last thirteen years polynomial Jun 2013 #68
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