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DreamGypsy

(2,252 posts)
32. Personally? No.
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 02:54 PM
Jun 2013

Mountain climbing is not one of my passions.

For better or worse, guiding provides a livelihood for many people in mountainous areas. As various countries have developed middle and upper classes that can afford 'hobbies' like climbing, tour companies have become an important part of the economy in some regions.

The Ukrainian, Russian, and Chinese governments probably do not recommend that their citizens look at U.S. State Department warnings about threats to U.S citizens. Did the tour company alert their customers to possible risks? I don't know, but if it was a U.S. company it certainly would have required indemnity against the consequences. I expect many of the businesses in Pakistan to not face the same legal issues that are experienced in the U.S.

The tour company was doing what it does. The eight climbers and the guide were apparently adults who should have been aware of the risks they were taking. Did those who died show bad judgement? In retrospect it's easy to say yes.

Did the U.S. show bad judgement establishing a drone program that kills civilians as well as other targets in a country with which the U.S. is not at war? In retrospect ....


ps: I think the guiding/climbing fad causes significant environment and social problems in many cases. However, given the havoc that we wreak on the environment in the U.S., it's difficult to take a strong moral stand on the issue.

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It's so damn senseless. Nolimit Jun 2013 #1
War is hell. We declared war on those people. RobertEarl Jun 2013 #18
Do you actually justify this massacre question everything Jun 2013 #23
Yes, that is EXACTLY what happened cliffordu Jun 2013 #25
Then why did they kill Russians and Chinese? (nt) Recursion Jun 2013 #41
Monsters strike again. :( Cha Jun 2013 #2
Sickening dipsydoodle Jun 2013 #3
scumbags, they claim it was in retaliation for US Drone STrike that killed on of their members JI7 Jun 2013 #4
Seems like a rational plan, try to get other countries to force the US to stop its drones..... peacebird Jun 2013 #5
haha, you think they give a shit about innocent civilians ? they KILLED a pakistani civilian JI7 Jun 2013 #6
I did not say they were not monsters, merely that this action was a logical step for them peacebird Jun 2013 #7
they are not upset about innocent civilians who die from drones, they wouldn't care if it was just JI7 Jun 2013 #9
Yup. nt Lucky Luciano Jun 2013 #16
exactly samsingh Jun 2013 #36
That presumes their agenda is really stopping zone strikes geek tragedy Jun 2013 #13
it's disgusting- as disgusting as attacking Iraq cali Jun 2013 #8
You mean like when we butchered tens of thousands of JoeyT Jun 2013 #39
Barbarians... secondvariety Jun 2013 #10
More anti- Islam bashing. jessie04 Jun 2013 #11
More stick your head in the sand. former9thward Jun 2013 #15
Post removed Post removed Jun 2013 #20
did you forget the sarcasm sign? samsingh Jun 2013 #37
"A Sunni militant group, Jundullah, said it was responsible." Botany Jun 2013 #12
That's right....lets kill,kill,kill jessie04 Jun 2013 #14
If you are part of or support a group that carries out this kind of crap I want you dead. Botany Jun 2013 #19
Do you want the US military and its supporters dead, too? Comrade Grumpy Jun 2013 #30
Exactly jessie04 Jun 2013 #43
There are no legitimate grievances which warrant such actions. (nt) Posteritatis Jun 2013 #28
I didn't see that anywhere in the poster's writing. Did you? /nt Ash_F Jun 2013 #31
There are no legitimate grievances which warrant JoeyT Jun 2013 #40
i suggest you go over to Pakistan and question anything and see what happens samsingh Jun 2013 #38
How will China and Russia react? mainer Jun 2013 #17
They won't give a flying crap. Beacool Jun 2013 #35
The establishment in Kashmir will make sure they are caught and probably killed vinny9698 Jun 2013 #21
If Pakistan wasn't illegally occupying Kashmir cosmicone Jun 2013 #24
What enlightened tour company... TeeYiYi Jun 2013 #22
The same type of tour company that take climbers to Everest. DreamGypsy Jun 2013 #26
Read the details of this travel advisory... TeeYiYi Jun 2013 #27
Personally? No. DreamGypsy Jun 2013 #32
Except most of these tourists weren't American mainer Jun 2013 #33
That reminds me. It's been a while a since I read a drone-kills-a-dozen-children story. Ash_F Jun 2013 #29
It's been tapering down for the past 3 or 4 years Recursion Jun 2013 #42
American among 10 tourists killed by Pakistani militants Eugene Jun 2013 #34
Yep....those drone attacks are coming home. jessie04 Jun 2013 #44
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