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BREAKING: Supreme Court Strikes Down Key Part of Voting Rights Act [View all] Hissyspit Jun 2013 OP

Welcome back to the 1950s. nt onehandle Jun 2013 #1

That's 1850s hobbit709 Jun 2013 #34

Possible Silver Lining... AllTooEasy Jun 2013 #185

have you been drinking? Doctor_J Jun 2013 #194

We Haven't Got the Votes to Fix This, and Now We Never Will AndyTiedye Jun 2013 #206

K&R G_j Jun 2013 #2

2014..give Obama a Congress that will draft a new formula and protect our msanthrope Jun 2013 #3

he had one dsc Jun 2013 #4

No he didn't! Indyfan53 Jun 2013 #8

the initial bill passed 98 to 0 dsc Jun 2013 #16

What "initial bill"? BumRushDaShow Jun 2013 #71

no 2006 dsc Jun 2013 #74

don't bet the farm on it. lastlib Jun 2013 #76

then why in 2006 did not a single, solitary senator dsc Jun 2013 #77

The difference is the black face in office as President BumRushDaShow Jun 2013 #85

oh please? dsc Jun 2013 #96

Again, see post #85 BumRushDaShow Jun 2013 #123

So you think Judd Gregg BumRushDaShow Jun 2013 #79

we needed one gop vote dsc Jun 2013 #83

See post #85 BumRushDaShow Jun 2013 #88

Especially at the very beginning tblue Jun 2013 #106

Still trying to figure out how this was his fault. He never had a working majority in the Senate. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #139

Filibuster proof? Shrub didn't need a filibuster proof Senate. Coccydynia Jun 2013 #104

The Filibuster Has Been Used More In The Last 4 1/2 Years DallasNE Jun 2013 #117

It tells me the Dems don't mind the Filibuster. Coccydynia Jun 2013 #120

Nope. It tells me that it only matters when the black Muslim socialist from Kenya is president. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #143

Then the Dems should do away with the Filibuster Coccydynia Jun 2013 #145

On this agree, but blame the right person(s). Stop blaming the president for what he cannot control! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #150

I don't recall blaming the President for anything. Coccydynia Jun 2013 #156

Of course, he would veto the bill, but you gotta get it him first. He can't act without Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #159

Stats to illustrate BumRushDaShow Jun 2013 #126

He really didn't. EC Jun 2013 #10

true and that 60-vote thing needs to go! Protects the minority and defeats the majority wordpix Jun 2013 #18

Harry Reid's gonna get around to that someday... AndyA Jun 2013 #64

The Purpose Of The Filibuster Is To Prevent The Tyranny Of The Majority DallasNE Jun 2013 #119

Actually, no. If that were true then "The People's House" Coccydynia Jun 2013 #122

The Senate Is Designed To Be The More Deliberative And Stable Body DallasNE Jun 2013 #142

First, it is the length of the Senate terms Coccydynia Jun 2013 #152

Designed to give 600k Wyomingers more votes than 4 mil Los Angelenos CreekDog Jun 2013 #207

It Would Take A Constitutional Convention To Fix That DallasNE Jun 2013 #217

There's nothing in the U.S. Constitution that permits or prohibits filibusters and holds. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #146

House used to have such a rule telclaven Jun 2013 #173

Very interesting. I did not know that. Coccydynia Jun 2013 #177

Oh fucking yawn ... Nihil Jun 2013 #240

Plus notice everything should have been crammed into that short period treestar Jun 2013 #90

72 Days. That's how long we supposedly had a "veto-proof" majority. It's amazing how similar.... Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #130

Senator Kennedy, Senator Byrd, and Senator Tim Johnson were often in and out with illness-related Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #149

What? You mean Obama couldn't turn back decades of bad policy in 45 days? What a slacker. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #160

I was wrong. You were right. It was 72 days!!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #171

Hey! At least you're big enough to admit when you're wrong. That doesn't happen here often. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #174

On the larger point, however, we are both right! 72 days is not enough time to get things done... Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #189

Exactly. He really would've been "Barack The Magic Negro" (remember that one?) if he could've...... Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #196

People already think he's Barack the Magic Negro. They think all he has to do is snap his skinny Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #198

Or they claim he can use the "bully pulpit", and then in the very next breath, they admit.... Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #201

+1 JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #232

And It Was In That 72 Days DallasNE Jun 2013 #218

Yep!! Had to pass it via reconciliation if I recall correctly. Why? Because it takes only ONE Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #225

Kennedy was out from March on, his successor was not there until late September ... SomeGuyInEagan Jun 2013 #180

It was truly amazing. But what I'm most amazed by is the revisionism that routinely takes place.... Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #181

He did Renew Deal Jun 2013 #12

I am not saying he didn't do anythign dsc Jun 2013 #22

Someone should have proposed a change Renew Deal Jun 2013 #25

this is the kind of law a president has to spear head if it is going to get done dsc Jun 2013 #35

How do you know that he didn't do anything? You're assuming. Stop doing that! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #151

maybe because I wasn't in a coma the last 4 years dsc Jun 2013 #155

Nothing good this African American does ends up in the news. Stop being naive. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #162

I though you wanted Obama to ban abortion? CreekDog Jun 2013 #208

The things he did are things the GOP does not care about. zeemike Jun 2013 #52

The Republicans don't care about Health Care? And DADT? LOL KittyWampus Jun 2013 #186

They care about health care zeemike Jun 2013 #187

No he didn't BumRushDaShow Jun 2013 #21

Only 72 days. Kennedy passed away. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #169

And each day of it should have lasted 90 hours treestar Jun 2013 #92

Honestly this was pretty important dsc Jun 2013 #99

Wait! That's Congress's job, not the president. Second, you are WRONG!!!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #136

the 2006 bill, which was just overturned passed 98 to 0 dsc Jun 2013 #141

You're kidding right? You can't be that naive. Didn't you read the story about McConnell Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #154

he got two votes for his stimulus plan dsc Jun 2013 #157

And what happened to those Republicans dare I ask? Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #164

one is up this time, one retired in 12 dsc Jun 2013 #166

He didn't need a new formula back then. He had the complete Voting Rights Act. AllTooEasy Jun 2013 #184

Right, just like they brought us all that change in 2009. MrSlayer Jun 2013 #6

Good luck with that Democat Jun 2013 #11

And are all moist JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #27

No shit. Zoeisright Jun 2013 #50

We thought we elected the man who campaigned! Did he do some great things, yes! Has he broken Dustlawyer Jun 2013 #107

'Cept we don't give him enough time to make good on those promises. If he hasn't acted on Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #172

Damn right!! Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #55

This ruling nearly guarantees more Republican wins in 2014 Kablooie Jun 2013 #66

As an election attorney for the Obama campaign in 2008 and 2012, it's not msanthrope Jun 2013 #67

I just read Wikipedia and I see even some districts in California were listed. Kablooie Jun 2013 #105

You are absolutely correct. nt msanthrope Jun 2013 #114

thank you JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #233

actually the gop is pretty much maxed out house wise here dsc Jun 2013 #100

That's good to know. Kablooie Jun 2013 #101

with his dismal record why would you think that? bowens43 Jun 2013 #128

We are NOT going to have more reps or senators than we had in 2009 Doctor_J Jun 2013 #195

Time to fire up. BumRushDaShow Jun 2013 #5

"Whoop dee doo!" - RepubliBaggers (R) Berlum Jun 2013 #7

Can anyone say judicial activism. iandhr Jun 2013 #9

What kind of benighted fools reflection Jun 2013 #13

Very short answer: Times have changed. AngryOldDem Jun 2013 #20

Time always changes. reflection Jun 2013 #28

Yes they have loyalsister Jun 2013 #30

It's rather simple. bobclark86 Jun 2013 #38

That's a good way of explaining it. reflection Jun 2013 #44

It's false and misleading. Don't call a pack of lies "good" CreekDog Jun 2013 #209

I read downthread. reflection Jun 2013 #224

Which of those provisions are protecting *any* voter in *any* state right now? CreekDog Jun 2013 #226

You are correct, of course, but getting Congress to do anything mountain grammy Jun 2013 #54

This is exactly what they do! bobclark86 Jun 2013 #65

you're saying states that had segregation on the books couldn't be treated differently? CreekDog Jun 2013 #131

because such states had defacto apartheid within their borders CreekDog Jun 2013 #133

Yeah, it was a horrible situation (which many GOPers want continued), BUT bobclark86 Jun 2013 #188

Please quote the text of the actual law that named specific states CreekDog Jun 2013 #197

Go read the law. bobclark86 Jun 2013 #199

You have read the law and now admit that no state is specifically named in it CreekDog Jun 2013 #200

It's worse... bobclark86 Jun 2013 #229

you're saying it's worse if the Obama Admin picks and chooses than being thrown out completely? CreekDog Jun 2013 #230

The law is aimed at a handful of states because of their history mountain grammy Jun 2013 #228

The law applied outside the deep South, which you don't seem to know CreekDog Jun 2013 #205

"What kind of benighted fools..." Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito, Antonin Scalia.... lastlib Jun 2013 #80

I suppose. reflection Jun 2013 #81

well heaven05 Jun 2013 #14

Damn it! Bet it's another wonderful 5-4 decision! sinkingfeeling Jun 2013 #15

Our march backward continues. AngryOldDem Jun 2013 #17

Forget 'poll tests,' think 'poll taxes' - that's the Republicans' real agenda, i.e., to HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #47

I need more information Iliyah Jun 2013 #19

What the Court is basically saying is that Congress premium Jun 2013 #70

I can't think of anything more important than this tblue Jun 2013 #108

I agree and this is why we need to take back the House in 2014, premium Jun 2013 #113

Stop being an apologist for the RW supreme Court majority CreekDog Jun 2013 #210

Apologist? premium Jun 2013 #213

You Do Understand That the Possibility of Any Such Measure Passing the House is 0.0000%, Don't You? AndyTiedye Jun 2013 #214

I think that Nancy can peel off enough repubs premium Jun 2013 #215

Only Three Things Wrong With That Plan AndyTiedye Jun 2013 #221

It is equal under the law. You're saying you don't want them to spend more $$ in racist places CreekDog Jun 2013 #219

No, what the SC said was that you have to apply the same premium Jun 2013 #220

so you're saying that a state with more problems can't get more scrutiny? CreekDog Jun 2013 #222

I'm not saying it premium Jun 2013 #223

Now they will make all kinds of bias rules for voting. SummerSnow Jun 2013 #23

AG Gregg Abbott (TX) already jumping in with both feet. blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #183

So they win JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #24

Thank you,Ralph, for Alito and Roberts. Nanjing to Seoul Jun 2013 #26

Next it will be only white property owners with nineteen50 Jun 2013 #32

The Nader Court strikes again! moondust Jun 2013 #51

+1 SunSeeker Jun 2013 #165

clarence thomas heaven05 Jun 2013 #29

he is a troubled and a misguided soul srican69 Jun 2013 #31

Thurgood Marshall heaven05 Jun 2013 #33

Marshall's exact words... BlueDemKev Jun 2013 #86

soul???? no he is a bought and paid for hack dembotoz Jun 2013 #37

Who pulls in a handsome 6-digit salary with perks and healthcare... KansDem Jun 2013 #78

It's not his self interest. He's a 1%er. Ralph Nader's SCOTUS only votes for the 1%. nt onehandle Jun 2013 #40

What foreign languages does he speak? JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #59

He didnt vote against his own self interests... iamthebandfanman Jun 2013 #161

yeah heaven05 Jun 2013 #163

What do you call the SCOTUS "decision"? tomg Jun 2013 #36

yeah heaven05 Jun 2013 #63

More injustice from the Bush Junta Coyotl Jun 2013 #39

never heaven05 Jun 2013 #72

This is awful MissNostalgia Jun 2013 #41

I believe its 5-4 usual justice voting Iliyah Jun 2013 #42

NOW is the time DFW Jun 2013 #43

This could be a plus for our side. Archae Jun 2013 #45

... if they get the voter suppression laws passed, it won't matter .... Myrina Jun 2013 #53

^That's the real danger, right there^ Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #58

It's a damn good thing we came out in force in 2010 and prevented the Teabagger takeover maxrandb Jun 2013 #124

So when Dem voters are kept at home, Dems will win lots more elections CreekDog Jun 2013 #135

I'm assuming he/she meant Jamaal510 Jun 2013 #178

of course that's what they thought --but their thought was half-baked at best CreekDog Jun 2013 #179

Looking for legal eagle to explain this phrase. maddogesq Jun 2013 #46

yep mountain grammy Jun 2013 #56

And this is why I laugh everytime that I hear that Republicans will be irrelevant Chakab Jun 2013 #48

Yeah, right. Because Congress is so fucking functional. mountain grammy Jun 2013 #49

The "region bigotry" folks must like this ruling michigandem58 Jun 2013 #57

Please Die lobodons Jun 2013 #60

Sad vkkv Jun 2013 #61

just in time to help North Carolina GOP defend against NAACP redistricting lawsuit n/t zazen Jun 2013 #62

Just in time to kill The 2014 election. Kablooie Jun 2013 #68

Hey don't be so down obama2terms Jun 2013 #84

I hope and pray... BlueDemKev Jun 2013 #91

Not gonna happen. jeff47 Jun 2013 #204

Even That Landslide Barely Made a Dent in the Gerrymandered House AndyTiedye Jun 2013 #212

SCOTUS nostalgic for 60s riots. caseymoz Jun 2013 #69

SCOTUS - ILLOGIC blkbear Jun 2013 #73

All the more reason... BlueDemKev Jun 2013 #75

Sad & pathetic move for the soon to be minority of old white racists assholes. Die soon muthafuckas! L0oniX Jun 2013 #82

This just gave us the single, national hot issue that will sweep Dems into both houses in 2014 /nt demwing Jun 2013 #87

I heaven05 Jun 2013 #95

I see your coffee, and raise you a slice of pie demwing Jun 2013 #103

you're on heaven05 Jun 2013 #109

and they will vote *how*? CreekDog Jun 2013 #231

I'm not surprised that you're astounded demwing Jun 2013 #234

You made an ignorant and incorrect statement: preclearance wasn't weakened, it was *eliminated* CreekDog Jun 2013 #235

1. "weakened" was your word, not mine demwing Jun 2013 #236

voting rights were weakened because preclearance was eliminated CreekDog Jun 2013 #237

I'd love to sit and chat with you all day demwing Jun 2013 #238

i thought you liked Life In Hell? CreekDog Jun 2013 #239

I think that HAS to be the approach... that this will be galvanizing.. deurbano Jun 2013 #127

this heaven05 Jun 2013 #167

Quelle surprise. And the sun rose in the east this morning, too. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2013 #89

The Obama government had to intervene to stop the voting restrictions by the Republican governments Kolesar Jun 2013 #93

The next time you hear about legislating from the bench, denem Jun 2013 #94

It's simple--extend pre clearance to all counties and states marshall Jun 2013 #97

I bet you'll see a lot of English only ballots in heavily Hispanic districts in 2014. Kablooie Jun 2013 #98

I can see more secret oath taking to make legislators do lots more underhanded road blocking. midnight Jun 2013 #102

"Current Conditions"? DallasNE Jun 2013 #110

I wish to apologize to my fellow DUers Coccydynia Jun 2013 #111

yep heaven05 Jun 2013 #112

LOL. nt SunSeeker Jun 2013 #168

K & R ctsnowman Jun 2013 #115

So where are all those folks who claim theres not a hill a beans of difference between D's and R's?? DCBob Jun 2013 #116

no words southmost Jun 2013 #118

The law is still effective, relax! alp227 Jun 2013 #129

A large portion of Amercia will see this as Iliyah Jun 2013 #147

Not really in effect anymore ... brett_jv Jun 2013 #148

Which the current Congress will never do. (nt) Posteritatis Jun 2013 #202

You don't understand the decision you're talking about I'm afraid CreekDog Jun 2013 #211

This may be good. We need a new national all states VRA to fight GOP games on point Jun 2013 #121

Where are we going to get a "new VRA" from? CreekDog Jun 2013 #137

Yeah, it's good alright Doctor_J Jun 2013 #193

Gotta take it to the streets Gman Jun 2013 #125

I predict more bad news is coming re: DOMA... Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #132

All this happening while the black Muslim socialist from Kenya is the president. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #134

My understanding of another reason why this is really fucked ... brett_jv Jun 2013 #138

I really don't agree John2 Jun 2013 #190

Like I posted on another thread in GD maryellen99 Jun 2013 #140

+Infinity! - nt HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #175

Will they be able to require all states do it now? /nt Ash_F Jun 2013 #144

Huge step backward. Welcome to the new America. n/t SpankMe Jun 2013 #153

Christ almighty. n/t iamthebandfanman Jun 2013 #158

Rick Perry and Tom Delay are gonna be very happy LeftInTX Jun 2013 #170

Ohio had lines like Florida.... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #176

Jim Crow, here we come. blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #182

Some DUers think this SCOTUS can still be trusted Doctor_J Jun 2013 #191

Slappy should have been impeached while we had the House & Senate Doctor_J Jun 2013 #192

Wonder if they'll stick with gerrymandering or go straight to poll taxes and literacy tests. (nt) Posteritatis Jun 2013 #203

Proud to be an American malthaussen Jun 2013 #216

So many people worked and sacrificed so much to see the Voting Rights Act become law in 1965. Beacool Jun 2013 #227