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71. What "initial bill"?

Tue Jun 25, 2013, 10:14 AM

Jun 2013

From 1965? You are trying to jump the shark and compare 1965 with 2009, with dumb fuck rethugs in 2009 who were still pissed that Specter switched parties? They would have easily filabustered to delay until they took back over one of the chambers.

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BREAKING: Supreme Court Strikes Down Key Part of Voting Rights Act [View all] Hissyspit Jun 2013 OP

Welcome back to the 1950s. nt onehandle Jun 2013 #1

That's 1850s hobbit709 Jun 2013 #34

Possible Silver Lining... AllTooEasy Jun 2013 #185

have you been drinking? Doctor_J Jun 2013 #194

We Haven't Got the Votes to Fix This, and Now We Never Will AndyTiedye Jun 2013 #206

K&R G_j Jun 2013 #2

2014..give Obama a Congress that will draft a new formula and protect our msanthrope Jun 2013 #3

he had one dsc Jun 2013 #4

No he didn't! Indyfan53 Jun 2013 #8

the initial bill passed 98 to 0 dsc Jun 2013 #16

What "initial bill"? BumRushDaShow Jun 2013 #71

no 2006 dsc Jun 2013 #74

don't bet the farm on it. lastlib Jun 2013 #76

then why in 2006 did not a single, solitary senator dsc Jun 2013 #77

The difference is the black face in office as President BumRushDaShow Jun 2013 #85

oh please? dsc Jun 2013 #96

Again, see post #85 BumRushDaShow Jun 2013 #123

So you think Judd Gregg BumRushDaShow Jun 2013 #79

we needed one gop vote dsc Jun 2013 #83

See post #85 BumRushDaShow Jun 2013 #88

Especially at the very beginning tblue Jun 2013 #106

Still trying to figure out how this was his fault. He never had a working majority in the Senate. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #139

Filibuster proof? Shrub didn't need a filibuster proof Senate. Coccydynia Jun 2013 #104

The Filibuster Has Been Used More In The Last 4 1/2 Years DallasNE Jun 2013 #117

It tells me the Dems don't mind the Filibuster. Coccydynia Jun 2013 #120

Nope. It tells me that it only matters when the black Muslim socialist from Kenya is president. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #143

Then the Dems should do away with the Filibuster Coccydynia Jun 2013 #145

On this agree, but blame the right person(s). Stop blaming the president for what he cannot control! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #150

I don't recall blaming the President for anything. Coccydynia Jun 2013 #156

Of course, he would veto the bill, but you gotta get it him first. He can't act without Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #159

Stats to illustrate BumRushDaShow Jun 2013 #126

He really didn't. EC Jun 2013 #10

true and that 60-vote thing needs to go! Protects the minority and defeats the majority wordpix Jun 2013 #18

Harry Reid's gonna get around to that someday... AndyA Jun 2013 #64

The Purpose Of The Filibuster Is To Prevent The Tyranny Of The Majority DallasNE Jun 2013 #119

Actually, no. If that were true then "The People's House" Coccydynia Jun 2013 #122

The Senate Is Designed To Be The More Deliberative And Stable Body DallasNE Jun 2013 #142

First, it is the length of the Senate terms Coccydynia Jun 2013 #152

Designed to give 600k Wyomingers more votes than 4 mil Los Angelenos CreekDog Jun 2013 #207

It Would Take A Constitutional Convention To Fix That DallasNE Jun 2013 #217

There's nothing in the U.S. Constitution that permits or prohibits filibusters and holds. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #146

House used to have such a rule telclaven Jun 2013 #173

Very interesting. I did not know that. Coccydynia Jun 2013 #177

Oh fucking yawn ... Nihil Jun 2013 #240

Plus notice everything should have been crammed into that short period treestar Jun 2013 #90

72 Days. That's how long we supposedly had a "veto-proof" majority. It's amazing how similar.... Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #130

Senator Kennedy, Senator Byrd, and Senator Tim Johnson were often in and out with illness-related Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #149

What? You mean Obama couldn't turn back decades of bad policy in 45 days? What a slacker. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #160

I was wrong. You were right. It was 72 days!!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #171

Hey! At least you're big enough to admit when you're wrong. That doesn't happen here often. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #174

On the larger point, however, we are both right! 72 days is not enough time to get things done... Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #189

Exactly. He really would've been "Barack The Magic Negro" (remember that one?) if he could've...... Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #196

People already think he's Barack the Magic Negro. They think all he has to do is snap his skinny Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #198

Or they claim he can use the "bully pulpit", and then in the very next breath, they admit.... Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #201

+1 JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #232

And It Was In That 72 Days DallasNE Jun 2013 #218

Yep!! Had to pass it via reconciliation if I recall correctly. Why? Because it takes only ONE Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #225

Kennedy was out from March on, his successor was not there until late September ... SomeGuyInEagan Jun 2013 #180

It was truly amazing. But what I'm most amazed by is the revisionism that routinely takes place.... Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #181

He did Renew Deal Jun 2013 #12

I am not saying he didn't do anythign dsc Jun 2013 #22

Someone should have proposed a change Renew Deal Jun 2013 #25

this is the kind of law a president has to spear head if it is going to get done dsc Jun 2013 #35

How do you know that he didn't do anything? You're assuming. Stop doing that! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #151

maybe because I wasn't in a coma the last 4 years dsc Jun 2013 #155

Nothing good this African American does ends up in the news. Stop being naive. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #162

I though you wanted Obama to ban abortion? CreekDog Jun 2013 #208

The things he did are things the GOP does not care about. zeemike Jun 2013 #52

The Republicans don't care about Health Care? And DADT? LOL KittyWampus Jun 2013 #186

They care about health care zeemike Jun 2013 #187

No he didn't BumRushDaShow Jun 2013 #21

Only 72 days. Kennedy passed away. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #169

And each day of it should have lasted 90 hours treestar Jun 2013 #92

Honestly this was pretty important dsc Jun 2013 #99

Wait! That's Congress's job, not the president. Second, you are WRONG!!!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #136

the 2006 bill, which was just overturned passed 98 to 0 dsc Jun 2013 #141

You're kidding right? You can't be that naive. Didn't you read the story about McConnell Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #154

he got two votes for his stimulus plan dsc Jun 2013 #157

And what happened to those Republicans dare I ask? Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #164

one is up this time, one retired in 12 dsc Jun 2013 #166

He didn't need a new formula back then. He had the complete Voting Rights Act. AllTooEasy Jun 2013 #184

Right, just like they brought us all that change in 2009. MrSlayer Jun 2013 #6

Good luck with that Democat Jun 2013 #11

And are all moist JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #27

No shit. Zoeisright Jun 2013 #50

We thought we elected the man who campaigned! Did he do some great things, yes! Has he broken Dustlawyer Jun 2013 #107

'Cept we don't give him enough time to make good on those promises. If he hasn't acted on Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #172

Damn right!! Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #55

This ruling nearly guarantees more Republican wins in 2014 Kablooie Jun 2013 #66

As an election attorney for the Obama campaign in 2008 and 2012, it's not msanthrope Jun 2013 #67

I just read Wikipedia and I see even some districts in California were listed. Kablooie Jun 2013 #105

You are absolutely correct. nt msanthrope Jun 2013 #114

thank you JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #233

actually the gop is pretty much maxed out house wise here dsc Jun 2013 #100

That's good to know. Kablooie Jun 2013 #101

with his dismal record why would you think that? bowens43 Jun 2013 #128

We are NOT going to have more reps or senators than we had in 2009 Doctor_J Jun 2013 #195

Time to fire up. BumRushDaShow Jun 2013 #5

"Whoop dee doo!" - RepubliBaggers (R) Berlum Jun 2013 #7

Can anyone say judicial activism. iandhr Jun 2013 #9

What kind of benighted fools reflection Jun 2013 #13

Very short answer: Times have changed. AngryOldDem Jun 2013 #20

Time always changes. reflection Jun 2013 #28

Yes they have loyalsister Jun 2013 #30

It's rather simple. bobclark86 Jun 2013 #38

That's a good way of explaining it. reflection Jun 2013 #44

It's false and misleading. Don't call a pack of lies "good" CreekDog Jun 2013 #209

I read downthread. reflection Jun 2013 #224

Which of those provisions are protecting *any* voter in *any* state right now? CreekDog Jun 2013 #226

You are correct, of course, but getting Congress to do anything mountain grammy Jun 2013 #54

This is exactly what they do! bobclark86 Jun 2013 #65

you're saying states that had segregation on the books couldn't be treated differently? CreekDog Jun 2013 #131

because such states had defacto apartheid within their borders CreekDog Jun 2013 #133

Yeah, it was a horrible situation (which many GOPers want continued), BUT bobclark86 Jun 2013 #188

Please quote the text of the actual law that named specific states CreekDog Jun 2013 #197

Go read the law. bobclark86 Jun 2013 #199

You have read the law and now admit that no state is specifically named in it CreekDog Jun 2013 #200

It's worse... bobclark86 Jun 2013 #229

you're saying it's worse if the Obama Admin picks and chooses than being thrown out completely? CreekDog Jun 2013 #230

The law is aimed at a handful of states because of their history mountain grammy Jun 2013 #228

The law applied outside the deep South, which you don't seem to know CreekDog Jun 2013 #205

"What kind of benighted fools..." Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito, Antonin Scalia.... lastlib Jun 2013 #80

I suppose. reflection Jun 2013 #81

well heaven05 Jun 2013 #14

Damn it! Bet it's another wonderful 5-4 decision! sinkingfeeling Jun 2013 #15

Our march backward continues. AngryOldDem Jun 2013 #17

Forget 'poll tests,' think 'poll taxes' - that's the Republicans' real agenda, i.e., to HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #47

I need more information Iliyah Jun 2013 #19

What the Court is basically saying is that Congress premium Jun 2013 #70

I can't think of anything more important than this tblue Jun 2013 #108

I agree and this is why we need to take back the House in 2014, premium Jun 2013 #113

Stop being an apologist for the RW supreme Court majority CreekDog Jun 2013 #210

Apologist? premium Jun 2013 #213

You Do Understand That the Possibility of Any Such Measure Passing the House is 0.0000%, Don't You? AndyTiedye Jun 2013 #214

I think that Nancy can peel off enough repubs premium Jun 2013 #215

Only Three Things Wrong With That Plan AndyTiedye Jun 2013 #221

It is equal under the law. You're saying you don't want them to spend more $$ in racist places CreekDog Jun 2013 #219

No, what the SC said was that you have to apply the same premium Jun 2013 #220

so you're saying that a state with more problems can't get more scrutiny? CreekDog Jun 2013 #222

I'm not saying it premium Jun 2013 #223

Now they will make all kinds of bias rules for voting. SummerSnow Jun 2013 #23

AG Gregg Abbott (TX) already jumping in with both feet. blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #183

So they win JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #24

Thank you,Ralph, for Alito and Roberts. Nanjing to Seoul Jun 2013 #26

Next it will be only white property owners with nineteen50 Jun 2013 #32

The Nader Court strikes again! moondust Jun 2013 #51

+1 SunSeeker Jun 2013 #165

clarence thomas heaven05 Jun 2013 #29

he is a troubled and a misguided soul srican69 Jun 2013 #31

Thurgood Marshall heaven05 Jun 2013 #33

Marshall's exact words... BlueDemKev Jun 2013 #86

soul???? no he is a bought and paid for hack dembotoz Jun 2013 #37

Who pulls in a handsome 6-digit salary with perks and healthcare... KansDem Jun 2013 #78

It's not his self interest. He's a 1%er. Ralph Nader's SCOTUS only votes for the 1%. nt onehandle Jun 2013 #40

What foreign languages does he speak? JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #59

He didnt vote against his own self interests... iamthebandfanman Jun 2013 #161

yeah heaven05 Jun 2013 #163

What do you call the SCOTUS "decision"? tomg Jun 2013 #36

yeah heaven05 Jun 2013 #63

More injustice from the Bush Junta Coyotl Jun 2013 #39

never heaven05 Jun 2013 #72

This is awful MissNostalgia Jun 2013 #41

I believe its 5-4 usual justice voting Iliyah Jun 2013 #42

NOW is the time DFW Jun 2013 #43

This could be a plus for our side. Archae Jun 2013 #45

... if they get the voter suppression laws passed, it won't matter .... Myrina Jun 2013 #53

^That's the real danger, right there^ Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #58

It's a damn good thing we came out in force in 2010 and prevented the Teabagger takeover maxrandb Jun 2013 #124

So when Dem voters are kept at home, Dems will win lots more elections CreekDog Jun 2013 #135

I'm assuming he/she meant Jamaal510 Jun 2013 #178

of course that's what they thought --but their thought was half-baked at best CreekDog Jun 2013 #179

Looking for legal eagle to explain this phrase. maddogesq Jun 2013 #46

yep mountain grammy Jun 2013 #56

And this is why I laugh everytime that I hear that Republicans will be irrelevant Chakab Jun 2013 #48

Yeah, right. Because Congress is so fucking functional. mountain grammy Jun 2013 #49

The "region bigotry" folks must like this ruling michigandem58 Jun 2013 #57

Please Die lobodons Jun 2013 #60

Sad vkkv Jun 2013 #61

just in time to help North Carolina GOP defend against NAACP redistricting lawsuit n/t zazen Jun 2013 #62

Just in time to kill The 2014 election. Kablooie Jun 2013 #68

Hey don't be so down obama2terms Jun 2013 #84

I hope and pray... BlueDemKev Jun 2013 #91

Not gonna happen. jeff47 Jun 2013 #204

Even That Landslide Barely Made a Dent in the Gerrymandered House AndyTiedye Jun 2013 #212

SCOTUS nostalgic for 60s riots. caseymoz Jun 2013 #69

SCOTUS - ILLOGIC blkbear Jun 2013 #73

All the more reason... BlueDemKev Jun 2013 #75

Sad & pathetic move for the soon to be minority of old white racists assholes. Die soon muthafuckas! L0oniX Jun 2013 #82

This just gave us the single, national hot issue that will sweep Dems into both houses in 2014 /nt demwing Jun 2013 #87

I heaven05 Jun 2013 #95

I see your coffee, and raise you a slice of pie demwing Jun 2013 #103

you're on heaven05 Jun 2013 #109

and they will vote *how*? CreekDog Jun 2013 #231

I'm not surprised that you're astounded demwing Jun 2013 #234

You made an ignorant and incorrect statement: preclearance wasn't weakened, it was *eliminated* CreekDog Jun 2013 #235

1. "weakened" was your word, not mine demwing Jun 2013 #236

voting rights were weakened because preclearance was eliminated CreekDog Jun 2013 #237

I'd love to sit and chat with you all day demwing Jun 2013 #238

i thought you liked Life In Hell? CreekDog Jun 2013 #239

I think that HAS to be the approach... that this will be galvanizing.. deurbano Jun 2013 #127

this heaven05 Jun 2013 #167

Quelle surprise. And the sun rose in the east this morning, too. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2013 #89

The Obama government had to intervene to stop the voting restrictions by the Republican governments Kolesar Jun 2013 #93

The next time you hear about legislating from the bench, denem Jun 2013 #94

It's simple--extend pre clearance to all counties and states marshall Jun 2013 #97

I bet you'll see a lot of English only ballots in heavily Hispanic districts in 2014. Kablooie Jun 2013 #98

I can see more secret oath taking to make legislators do lots more underhanded road blocking. midnight Jun 2013 #102

"Current Conditions"? DallasNE Jun 2013 #110

I wish to apologize to my fellow DUers Coccydynia Jun 2013 #111

yep heaven05 Jun 2013 #112

LOL. nt SunSeeker Jun 2013 #168

K & R ctsnowman Jun 2013 #115

So where are all those folks who claim theres not a hill a beans of difference between D's and R's?? DCBob Jun 2013 #116

no words southmost Jun 2013 #118

The law is still effective, relax! alp227 Jun 2013 #129

A large portion of Amercia will see this as Iliyah Jun 2013 #147

Not really in effect anymore ... brett_jv Jun 2013 #148

Which the current Congress will never do. (nt) Posteritatis Jun 2013 #202

You don't understand the decision you're talking about I'm afraid CreekDog Jun 2013 #211

This may be good. We need a new national all states VRA to fight GOP games on point Jun 2013 #121

Where are we going to get a "new VRA" from? CreekDog Jun 2013 #137

Yeah, it's good alright Doctor_J Jun 2013 #193

Gotta take it to the streets Gman Jun 2013 #125

I predict more bad news is coming re: DOMA... Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #132

All this happening while the black Muslim socialist from Kenya is the president. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #134

My understanding of another reason why this is really fucked ... brett_jv Jun 2013 #138

I really don't agree John2 Jun 2013 #190

Like I posted on another thread in GD maryellen99 Jun 2013 #140

+Infinity! - nt HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #175

Will they be able to require all states do it now? /nt Ash_F Jun 2013 #144

Huge step backward. Welcome to the new America. n/t SpankMe Jun 2013 #153

Christ almighty. n/t iamthebandfanman Jun 2013 #158

Rick Perry and Tom Delay are gonna be very happy LeftInTX Jun 2013 #170

Ohio had lines like Florida.... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #176

Jim Crow, here we come. blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #182

Some DUers think this SCOTUS can still be trusted Doctor_J Jun 2013 #191

Slappy should have been impeached while we had the House & Senate Doctor_J Jun 2013 #192

Wonder if they'll stick with gerrymandering or go straight to poll taxes and literacy tests. (nt) Posteritatis Jun 2013 #203

Proud to be an American malthaussen Jun 2013 #216

So many people worked and sacrificed so much to see the Voting Rights Act become law in 1965. Beacool Jun 2013 #227