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mahatmakanejeeves

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Tue Jun 25, 2013, 12:32 PM Jun 2013

Judge rules: Jesus statue can stay [View all]

Source: Kalispell, MT, Daily Inter Lake

Posted: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 10:00 am | Updated: 10:23 am, Tue Jun 25, 2013.

Judge rules: Jesus statue can stay

The famed Jesus statue on Big Mountain can remain where it is — at least for now — thanks to a ruling by U.S. District Court Judge Dana Christensen that was announced on Monday. ... The Freedom From Religion Foundation had challenged the legality of the statue because it is located on national forest land above Chair 2 at Whitefish Mountain Resort.

Christensen, a former Kalispell attorney, granted the defendant’s request for summary judgment to allow the Flathead National Forest to reissue the permit for the statue, which has been maintained on the ski hill by the Knights of Columbus, a Catholic fraternal organization, for 60 years.

“Leasing public land within a private ski resort to a private organization that maintains a statue of Jesus does not violate the establishment clause,” Christensen ruled, referring to the First Amendment’s assurance that the state shall not establish a religion.

“The statue does not convey to a reasonable informed observer that the government rather than a private party endorses Christianity over any other faith or the absence of faith,” the federal court based in Missoula decided.



Read more: http://www.dailyinterlake.com/news/local_montana/article_8b0dca8a-dd3c-11e2-a977-001a4bcf887a.html



From The Missoulian:

Judge: Jesus statue can stay on Big Mountain

HELENA — A Jesus statue that has for six decades been a curiosity to skiers as they cruise down a popular run at a northwest Montana ski resort will not be evicted from federal land, a judge ruled Tuesday.

U.S. District Judge Dana Christensen said the Flathead National Forest can re-issue a 10-year permit for the statue installed on the ski hill by the Knights of Columbus, a Catholic men's organization.

The judge disagreed with a Wisconsin-based group of atheists and agnostics that argued the Forest Service was unconstitutionally sanctioning the statue. Its religious nature has been made clear in special-use permit applications since the 1950s, the Freedom From Religion Foundation had argued.
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Judge rules: Jesus statue can stay [View all] mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2013 OP
Seriously, I had no idea that Jeebus could ski. What color slope is that? Looks like a blue. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #1
Actually, it sounds like you just proposed a test that can be empirically evaluated on the statue. AtheistCrusader Jun 2013 #2
"Tips up, JayCee!" Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #4
'That tree will buff right out' AtheistCrusader Jun 2013 #8
... Javaman Jun 2013 #27
"The statue does not convey to a reasonable informed observer that the government rather than DainBramaged Jun 2013 #3
ObiWon is old school: The Alps and Aspen. Nowhere else. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #7
When I'm skiing, I wouldn't know I was on federal land OnlinePoker Jun 2013 #12
How would the average citizen discern the statue is on Federal land? Beartracks Jun 2013 #15
I've driven through areas of Virginia where there are three crosses on the hills DainBramaged Jun 2013 #19
So in that case, a reasonably informed person would/could/should know... Beartracks Jun 2013 #21
What? American has no Religion? That is not what the UN has said over the years happyslug Jun 2013 #33
You sound easily bothered... Pelican Jun 2013 #41
They would use their special head-meat - or "brain" - to reason it out. harmonicon Jun 2013 #40
But Jesus was Jewish. How could anyone infer definitively that it refers to Christianity instead of 24601 Jun 2013 #46
During my career, I was assigned to Region 1 in Montana, premium Jun 2013 #49
I suppose cosmicone Jun 2013 #5
They should be glad I dont live nearby... iamthebandfanman Jun 2013 #6
So you're of the opinion the Taliban had the right to destroy Buddah statues in Afghanistan? OnlinePoker Jun 2013 #9
Because thats the same thing.. iamthebandfanman Jun 2013 #13
Funny telclaven Jun 2013 #17
It's Buddha and that is NOT the same thing! pitbullgirl1965 Jun 2013 #39
And some of my former comrades, USFS Rangers, premium Jun 2013 #11
spare the mancho bravado iamthebandfanman Jun 2013 #14
I'm not being mancho bravado at all, premium Jun 2013 #16
I am an atheist, but I would never commit the violent act of knocking it over. RebelOne Jun 2013 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author premium Jun 2013 #20
You have the right to knock it down? Beartracks Jun 2013 #22
That one got me too. premium Jun 2013 #23
Oh, yeah. He mocks the supposed threat of force.... Beartracks Jun 2013 #31
Internet tough guy alert Ter Jun 2013 #42
I have no idea where he came up premium Jun 2013 #43
Jesus stays, voting rights go.... MADem Jun 2013 #10
As long as USFS leases land for other religious/non-religious private monuments, then no problem askeptic Jun 2013 #24
I want to see a Star of David, The Affirmations of Secular Humanism, a Buddha, Satanic Pentagram... Ian David Jun 2013 #28
Well, premium Jun 2013 #30
leave this statue alone... if you didn't complain 50 years ago, you are too late. secondwind Jun 2013 #25
and if you're under 50 and have objections? then tough fucking shit.. frylock Jun 2013 #26
LOL! Politicalboi Jun 2013 #29
I love In N Out burger, premium Jun 2013 #32
Me too Politicalboi Jun 2013 #34
I can't believe the posts i am reading on this thread in favor of this. boilerbabe Jun 2013 #35
There's nothing wrong with this ruling premium Jun 2013 #37
I'd like to know how much US taxpayers are earning from this ski resort lease wordpix Jun 2013 #36
Christians think they have the right to force their pitbullgirl1965 Jun 2013 #38
How is this statue forcing religion on others? premium Jun 2013 #45
Seems a statue of a bearded man in a robe is not necessarily a support of religion. Kablooie Jun 2013 #44
A statue of Buddha and Mohammed...... DeSwiss Jun 2013 #47
I wonder RoccoR5955 Jun 2013 #48
Nice violation of the second commandment there XemaSab Jun 2013 #50
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