I really would rather not respond to garbage like that, but, well hell, a guy's gotta say something in the face of a completely misguided insult like that.
I was born and raised in North Dakota - I eventually recognized that I was very liberal, which wasn't easy in the environment I grew up in. I then recognized that I was an atheist, and have also been a vegetarian (not quite vegan) for over 20 years. I have been pro-gay marriage for many years, and am very pleased with the Supreme Court's recent decision concerning Section 3 of what was rather pathetically named the "Defense of Marriage Act".
I am also a lawyer, and I responded to a post suggesting that state same-sex marriage bans were on the path to being ruled unconstitutional fairly soon and in a manner similar to Loving v. Virginia. I indicated my doubts about this being likely anytime soon, since the reasoning of Justice Kennedy's majority opinion striking down DOMA section 3 relied very, very heavily on the historical avoidance of marriage regulation by the federal government as well at the states' constitutional rights to define what rules apply to marriage within their jurisdictions. The reasoning is problematic for potential future consideration of state same-sex marriage bans, precisely because it would almost seem to bar rulings just like Loving.
Apparently you decided to respond to my assertion, faulty as it was, that there were no records of major civilizations incorporating same-sex marriage into their cultures. I should have limited the statement to perhaps the last 1500 years. However, all I did was take a couple of your examples - ancient Greece and some Native American tribes - and point out that same-sex unions, especially in ancient Greece, where they were mostly limited in time and between adult and prepubescent males, weren't the kind of marriages that we would consider appropriate today - in particular, the whole concept of two adults declaring publicly and with legal consequence their intention to spend their lives as spouses.
That's reality - what is happening today with the elevation of same-sex marriage is truly radical in human history, and it is a remarkably good thing, demonstrating that, at least in some ways, the human species is making real progress with respect to the advancement of rights for a historically highly persecuted group of people who are present in every society - not an ethnic group, but people defined simply by their sexual attraction to members of their own gender.
I don't know how this comes out as 'medieval', but, hey, whatever you need to make yourself feel absolutely right, go ahead - I won't bother to respond after this.
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