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In reply to the discussion: Diplomats from Several Countries Set Up Meeting to Discuss Snowden Case [View all]JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)has brought some of the secret documents to light. Maybe a court will actually consider a case. That would be a start.
We have to remain vigilant.
I remember a time when African-Americans in the South were treated like another species. It was horrible. And the infrastructure that economically disadvantaged African-Americans disadvantaged the entire South.
This kind of surveillance will, in time, deal a severe blow to creativity and communication in our society. It's wrong. It's detrimental to all Americans.
Since the end of WWII a tiny elite, the intelligence industry, has developed. That elite, and especially the tiny clique at the top of that elite, has an advantage in terms of knowledge, knowledge of the movements of others, of the words and thoughts and associations of others. The elite is not entirely concentrated in the government.
But the elite that is concentrated within the government has enormous power over our lives -- the power to investigate us, the power to make laws that we are likely to violate, the power to charge us with crimes, the power to collect evidence, the power to lie about us, the power to cheat us, the power to tax us, the power to kill us arbitrarily without trial -- almost as much power as God.
This elite, the one in the government (although some of the others are almost as bad) and in the government contractors has formed a cabal, an out-of-control, corrupt, fearful, controlling cabal in our government. The members of this cabal appoint each other, move in and out of the government and link private industry elites to the inner government elite. A good part of this cabal is centered in the NSA.
The NSA with its massive surveillance program and its influence on our military and foreign intelligence as well as domestic FBI is a rogue government within our government. It is incompatible with our democracy and downright dangerous to anyone it does not like.
Just a warning. Watch out. Because this cabal, this rogue government within our government is watching you. And it is going to develop and purchase more and more invasive technologies to be able to watch you more intensely and more pervasively.
I don't like it. Unfortunately, our courts and Congress are incapable of doing anything to protect us from that rogue government. The courts are unable to exceed the limits of the rules of their courts and the Constitution. And Congress is confused, full of its own cabals and cliques and not quick-witted enough to keep up with the rogue government in the NSA and other agencies, much less outsmart it.
So I don't see much hope. And the fact that so many people on DU defend the surveillance just makes me think that they are wanna' be or fantasy members of that cabal, of that elite, of that rogue government.
Yes, China, Russia, Venezuela, Cuba, Yemen, Syria, Iran, etc. all these countries are worse than we are. But we are not living in those countries. We live here. Our country is our responsibility.
We need to stop fooling ourselves and figure out how to dismantle the rogue government.
Obama couldn't do it if he wanted to because he is all by himself.
It's up to us to forget the media and the propaganda and elect a government that looks out for our interests and not just those of the rich and powerful and of the rogue cabal/government. It starts with sweeping out of Congress of all those who are willing to compromise our rights. Unfortunately, Dianne Feinstein has just been re-elected. That was a sad day.