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David__77

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26. Democracy does not equal freedom.

Reply to jessie04 (Reply #25)

Mon Jul 1, 2013, 03:21 AM

Jul 2013

Two different things. I think that the it's more likely for the Salafists to win an election over the MB than the liberals.

The Mubarak courts are not exactly motivated by some love of democratic norms. What is clear is that MB has won each election in Egypt since the so-called revolution.

Morsi is no good - a real reactionary. But the progressive forces in Egypt will have to do better than hankering for a coup by perhaps-worse officers.

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Egypt: Protesters Gather Nationwide To Demand Morsi's Ouster [View all] jessie04 Jun 2013 OP

Morsi should step aside. jessie04 Jun 2013 #1

Just saw the video from Cairo... huge crowds are gathrering (pro and con Morsi) planning JCMach1 Jun 2013 #2

wow jessie04 Jun 2013 #3

22 MILLION Egyptians signed a petition to remove him dixiegrrrrl Jun 2013 #4

Depending on how today goes, an indefinite general strike..... socialist_n_TN Jun 2013 #5

One can only hope after Morsi is gone jessie04 Jun 2013 #6

Morsi is the democratically elected leader of Egypt. Comrade Grumpy Jun 2013 #9

Yeah...those pesky women, those uppity Christians, those few Jews that haven't yet run like hell...! MADem Jun 2013 #10

When Morsi gets his way and all women wear burqas... jessie04 Jun 2013 #12

I think you're right. nt MADem Jun 2013 #13

I guess you're wrong again. See my post #14. Comrade Grumpy Jun 2013 #15

I would have preferred a different outcome to the presidential elections. Comrade Grumpy Jun 2013 #14

You most certainly are not Egyptian, and you don't really have the full picture, either, I fear. MADem Jun 2013 #21

I'd wager you're not Egyptian, either. Comrade Grumpy Jun 2013 #22

Nope, but I've got the bubble, and you haven't. MADem Jun 2013 #23

First you implied that Egyptian women weren't able to vote. Comrade Grumpy Jun 2013 #24

Do you honestly believe he is acting like a democratically elected leader ?? jessie04 Jun 2013 #11

Please educate me on how he isn't. Comrade Grumpy Jun 2013 #16

Egypt's Morsi grants himself far-reaching powers jessie04 Jun 2013 #25

Democracy does not equal freedom. David__77 Jul 2013 #26

Do you think their protests are "hankering for a coup"? joshcryer Jul 2013 #27

I don't think that matters. David__77 Jul 2013 #28

I think it is wrong to equate their actions to that. joshcryer Jul 2013 #30

It absolutely is that. David__77 Jul 2013 #32

Global secularization is the only sustainable outcome. joshcryer Jul 2013 #33

has anyone found a live stream of events in Egypt? ellenrr Jun 2013 #7

I have tried...no luck. jessie04 Jun 2013 #8

Try Sky News and BBC News dipsydoodle Jun 2013 #17

try this Bosonic Jun 2013 #20

Brotherhood's Cairo Headquarters Attacked With Stones, Petrol Bombs Comrade Grumpy Jun 2013 #18

Al Ahram says 2 million protesting against Morsi Comrade Grumpy Jun 2013 #19

Those demonstrations were truly impressive. Now, the military has imposed a deadline. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2013 #29

Uggh....what comes next ? jessie04 Jul 2013 #31

Morsi will be jessie04 Jul 2013 #34