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MADem

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22. This surveillance has been going on for decades. Nearly a century, in a corporate sense.
Mon Jul 1, 2013, 04:12 AM
Jul 2013

Go to the grocer, use a loyalty card, and your receipt will come with a bunch of coupons that are suggested based on your purchases. Same deal with your pharmacy loyalty card. Go on the facebook, and ads get targeted to you. It's been one nation, under surveillance for a long ass time.

I conduct myself circumspectly online, and on the phone. Always have--I've lived in countries where they weren't subtle about tapping your phone or tossing your house--not to steal, just to snoop.

I spent the entire Bush administration years getting stopped at TSA every time I tried to fly. I was on the Watch List and couldn't get off it. I'm quite sure it was a combination of my travel history and my party affiliation that put me on the list. I don't look like an average American either, so I'm sure that contributed as well. I used to fedex my clothes ahead of me to spare myself some agony. Now the TSA excesses have been resolved and they are taking a smarter approach to them, and leaving off people like me, and taking into account my decades of honorable service, with no running off to China or Russia with secrets for sale or barter, either.

Metadata is not YOU, your name, your conversations. It's your phone number. The phone company has been collecting that shit for as long as they have been billing people for using their phones--this isn't "new" data--back in the day, the phone company would send you pages of half sheets that listed all the calls you made, what number you called, and exactly, to the second, how long you talked. When the envelope was thick you knew the bill would be huge. That's metadata. Nowadays, people have all-in-one calling plans so they don't get an itemized bill. They could though--if they ASKED for it, because the phone company STILL collects the data. It's often the first thing requested in a contentious divorce...!

So long as you aren't exchanging hummus recipes with Osama's successor every week, you're not going to get targeted. Much as you might want to, to prove some odd point. They don't care that much about you--they care about jerks with bombs. And they don't have enough people to listen in on boring ass conversations--this isn't the pasdaran or the baseej at work, here.

Many of my lifelong friends live outside USA and I travel enough. I'm just not worried about it. I have nothing to hide, and if I did, and I hated this country, which I don't... I would leave it, not cause agita.

Life is too short to be paranoid.

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Putin is a fundie who hates gays and loves the flat tax Ash_F Jun 2013 #1
And THAT has what to do with the Snowden situation? oem Purveyor Jun 2013 #4
Aren't we ornery today? Ash_F Jun 2013 #6
Very. eom Purveyor Jun 2013 #8
Lesse... What could we possibly do to hurt Russia? truthisfreedom Jun 2013 #2
Haha what are we going to do? ForgoTheConsequence Jun 2013 #3
Snowden's nothing but a hypocritical ass and McCain's an old fart passed his expiration date Galraedia Jun 2013 #5
So Schumer is the 'darling' that escapes your rant? eom Purveyor Jun 2013 #7
Who the f@%k is Schumer? Galraedia Jun 2013 #9
well you got your answer azurnoir Jun 2013 #14
Somebody needs to shut those two clowns up before they do further damage Catherina Jun 2013 #10
OUR politicians? When they're left rudely cooling their heels by the petulant Pootie Poot and his MADem Jun 2013 #16
Petulant describes McCain and Schumer's behavior perfectly fujiyama Jun 2013 #18
On the international stage, they're rubes. Pootie Poot shouldn't leave a peer leader or his MADem Jul 2013 #20
I am most concerned about the information that Obama has confirmed -- JDPriestly Jul 2013 #21
This surveillance has been going on for decades. Nearly a century, in a corporate sense. MADem Jul 2013 #22
I really hate Putin, but its not his fault if US is unable to monitor is own personal. Sand Wind Jun 2013 #11
Post removed Post removed Jun 2013 #12
Admonish, eh? SCVDem Jun 2013 #13
That's right, freak out on the international front, it will do wonders for us. Like either of them Jefferson23 Jun 2013 #15
Oh, we will make Russia pay for this latest episode of noncooperation with the U.S. you can bet. Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #17
A has-been warmonger and a sickening racist fuckweasel? I care bout their opinions why? Scootaloo Jul 2013 #19
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