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16. Not to mention loss of dignity by those European nations

Wed Jul 3, 2013, 03:55 AM

Jul 2013

"This insult has the potential to hasten the decline of US influence in Latin America and to chill relations between the region and some of the European powers."

This is doubly embarrassing for the listed European nations, making them look like puppy dogs getting yanked around by the collar by the US. This humiliation in front of their own citizens could lead to a decline in relations with US, as their leaders struggle to compensate and prove that they have their own will.

Expect more EU leaders publicly criticizing US spying in the coming weeks.

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South American Nations Furious Over Diversion of Bolivian President's Plane [View all] Comrade Grumpy Jul 2013 OP

Might send some home from Brazil and Argentina. Downwinder Jul 2013 #1

This is an extreme lack of respect for a head of state. Cleita Jul 2013 #2

This message was self-deleted by its author Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #3

U Are Right sam_25tx Jul 2013 #4

+1, U agree? uppityperson Jul 2013 #56

They treated the president of Bolivia like a criminal suspect. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2013 #5

No, they treat him like we are still fighting the Cold War. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #11

The U.S. Gov't has always fully supported the viciously racist white right-wing oligarchs Judi Lynn Jul 2013 #20

Klaus Barbie, ally of Rev. Moon in Bolivian cocaine trade. Octafish Jul 2013 #88

No, they treated him like someonne living the "US's backyard". Arctic Dave Jul 2013 #37

We reap what we sow..... alittlelark Jul 2013 #6

Was this staged (in using Evo Morales) to send a message to other countries... AZ Progressive Jul 2013 #7

Oh shit Iliyah Jul 2013 #8

Let it Snowden, let it Snowden, Let it Snowden!!! - K&R :-} n/t DeSwiss Jul 2013 #9

Don't these people understand that Socialism is EVIL? Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #10

commercial flight, or plane owned by Bolivia? quadrature Jul 2013 #12

The United States is broke too. ForgoTheConsequence Jul 2013 #13

What kind of loon has the lowness to hate Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner, anyway? Judi Lynn Jul 2013 #24

They're naive. ForgoTheConsequence Jul 2013 #52

Naive? You're too kind. bitchkitty Jul 2013 #54

The plane was the equivalent of Airforce 1 JimDandy Jul 2013 #15

No one intercepted the plane. No one shot at it. No force or suggestion of force was in play. It 24601 Jul 2013 #59

President Kirchner Ash_F Jul 2013 #17

Nutty things can happen? cosmicone Jul 2013 #30

I guess they needed to be reminded of their place Ash_F Jul 2013 #14

Not to mention loss of dignity by those European nations Ash_F Jul 2013 #16

I believe the the action to be beyond absurd Sherman A1 Jul 2013 #18

It certainly puts paid to the notion that Snowden is not important. bemildred Jul 2013 #19

My thoughts exactly Sherman A1 Jul 2013 #23

Thank you, Comrade Grumpy, for this info. Rec. n/t Judi Lynn Jul 2013 #21

"hasten the decline of US influence in Latin America" dipsydoodle Jul 2013 #22

Oh Waaaaaaaaaah treestar Jul 2013 #25

This is an uncharacteristicly ugly post on your part. (nt) Kurovski Jul 2013 #26

I disagree mitchtv Jul 2013 #60

I guess if the same thing happens to Air Force 1 because of suspicion that some undesirable person idwiyo Jul 2013 #27

Of course. No country has to let AF One go over its airspace. treestar Jul 2013 #38

Evo Morales is not part of 1% n/t cosmicone Jul 2013 #31

Private plane? treestar Jul 2013 #39

He is a socialist and a reformer cosmicone Jul 2013 #51

You should be embarrassed at your ignorance lunatica Jul 2013 #32

I've heard enough about politicians and how they should not be trusted treestar Jul 2013 #40

Know anything about Evo Morales, Bolivia, apartheid in Bolivia, the Bush Junta embassy in Bolivia Peace Patriot Jul 2013 #46

I'm not Bolivian treestar Jul 2013 #62

Well you ARE the one who's saying (or at least insinuating)... socialist_n_TN Jul 2013 #80

No I didn't. That kind of straw man is overused on DU. treestar Jul 2013 #83

If you spent a few minutes doing your own research, bitchkitty Jul 2013 #61

A Saint? treestar Jul 2013 #63

One paragraph from Wikipedia proves your point? bitchkitty Jul 2013 #64

It certainly points in a direction treestar Jul 2013 #66

Again with the Wikipedia. bitchkitty Jul 2013 #68

You have quoted nothing at all. treestar Jul 2013 #69

So...you want me to quote something that proves your ignorance? bitchkitty Jul 2013 #73

You apparently know nothing about anything treestar Jul 2013 #75

And, to continue this informed discussion we can now link back to post 25. Pholus Jul 2013 #77

How could you live so long and not grasp coca has been used daily in a DIFFERENT way Judi Lynn Jul 2013 #70

Too much to hope for, I fear. bitchkitty Jul 2013 #72

Got a lot to celebrate. Excessive. Could be too dangerous. n/t Judi Lynn Jul 2013 #74

And every bit of it gets used that way treestar Jul 2013 #76

oh lookee treestar Jul 2013 #78

A private jet?... socialist_n_TN Jul 2013 #81

It's not a private jet. It is the property of the Bolivian government. n/t antigone382 Jul 2013 #82

Ours are motivated by systemic neo-liberal greed... socialist_n_TN Jul 2013 #79

Why shouldn't they have a jet? Bradical79 Jul 2013 #35

As long as you're not complaining about AF One treestar Jul 2013 #41

I don't recall much complaining about Air Force One Bradical79 Jul 2013 #65

There's no principle you won't toss aside if you think it helps Obama DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2013 #42

How does my post "help Obama?" treestar Jul 2013 #43

Your post doesn't help him at all, I promise. DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2013 #45

Then your whine above was about what? treestar Jul 2013 #67

He is so blinded by his love for Obama that he rusty fender Jul 2013 #85

Yes, that's the formula. I think she has an emotional investment in the President DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2013 #86

Justifying the unjustifiable. NT Forgot10Hiro Jul 2013 #87

The Ugly American rears his head. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2013 #53

The Oligarchs Are Having A Family Feud cantbeserious Jul 2013 #28

I guess the spying has worked sikofit3 Jul 2013 #29

Just great, countries phoning in anonymous Snowden threats to ground airplanes... Thor_MN Jul 2013 #33

Good point Snarkoleptic Jul 2013 #34

It doesn't matter what you and I - Americans - think; it matters deeply what the people and byeya Jul 2013 #36

The tone deaf leadership .... dixiegrrrrl Jul 2013 #44

South America has alternatives now and American diplomacy has to change with the new reality. byeya Jul 2013 #47

We are, and have been, such bullies. dixiegrrrrl Jul 2013 #48

And, it didn't have to be this way. The USA with its huge economy and natural resources could byeya Jul 2013 #55

The point is the plane still had to land to take on fuel.... Historic NY Jul 2013 #49

WE'RE NUMBER ONE BECAUSE WE HAVE THE BIGGEST GUN Gregorian Jul 2013 #50

First I was freaked out by the extraordinary power being wielded. The Stranger Jul 2013 #57

this is a bigger deal than the actual spying on allies yurbud Jul 2013 #58

Latin Bloc Condemns Hostile Acts Against Bolivian President Judi Lynn Jul 2013 #71

ok Obama League, you know what to do Enrique Jul 2013 #84

Latin Bloc Condemns Hostile Acts Against Bolivian President Judi Lynn Jul 2013 #89