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defacto7

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36. What is their response?
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 03:27 AM
Jul 2013

Usually it's just dead space and no action. People want what they want. They fall for any seeming luxury that comes along without any knowledge of the problems they can face in the long run and that is what the software companies want; they want people dumb and pacified, unable to take care of themselves or their machines. The only way software companies can control their products and protect their income is to control the data and from control of the data, they can control the hardware and you own nothing. The Pandora's box? Through that system all our information is vulnerable to loss, unlawful or unconstitutional scrutiny, and about anything you can imagine that our information could be used for. All of a sudden, people have given away control of their own personal information to whomever or just the ethers.

Just for a short example of one of my own experiences, I have run the tech systems for 2 private schools in the past. Both wanted to move to cloud based systems where all student, teacher, family, grading, behavioral, personal administrative notes and comments were to be stored up in "clouds ville" with no locally stored mechanism for ownership of their entire operation. This was about 3 years ago and I gave them the full backdrop of what they could be walking into. I also gave them several options for security and backup. Their response? Rolling eyes, Deer in the headlights look, that, "what an idiot, behind the times, not up with the cutting edge look". I refused to offer my services past that point. Now, they are so entrenched in their cloud system, they have no idea how to take care of their own property or the information of some thousand students without the extremely expensive help lords like Pierson and the like who are glad to help them with their ignorance for $20,000 a year or more. But they still don't have their own data. And they are stuck with it!

I've been running systems and servers for years and I have watched people run over the proverbial sheep cliff and it is most bizarre to watch people get stupider and more dependent when it comes to Internet and the business of technology that it's just a face/palm a minute. It's like the whole country is jumping off the cliff just because corporate media tells them it's the cutting edge of computing pleasure.

Just for the record without expanding, M$ and Apple are definitely on my shit list where the dumbing of the masses is concerned.

All I can say as a general warning... don't put anything of a secure nature on the Internet that you can't stand to loose or post anything on the Internet that that you don't want the human race to know about. Keep hard copies on site (so old school) and know your systems and how it works so your stuff is not vulnerable to some software savior that has no other purpose but to make you even more vulnerable. Vulnerability pays.

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That will get the attention of the Corporate States of America dbackjon Jul 2013 #1
Probably the only way anything will be done to stop this. Hit in the wallet. nt Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #13
Makes sense; they should have their own internet servers to spy on them.... Moonwalk Jul 2013 #2
But Europe is civilized and educated FrodosPet Jul 2013 #41
That would get the US governments attention. Autumn Jul 2013 #3
Is it too much to ask for reporters to bother finding out jeff47 Jul 2013 #4
If China can block Google for example dipsydoodle Jul 2013 #6
That would be relevant if blocking Google would stop the spying. jeff47 Jul 2013 #7
Then they'll put money into changing the architecture caseymoz Jul 2013 #9
"The architecture" is already not US-centric. jeff47 Jul 2013 #20
that's why they get cozy... chrislindsay23 Jul 2013 #28
I used to do maintenance on the Internet for a large ISP. caseymoz Jul 2013 #31
We seem to have similar backgrounds DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2013 #42
I think the point that was trying to be made was Egnever Jul 2013 #47
RT, the source, is Russian propaganda written for the US market KurtNYC Jul 2013 #48
Rt.com has low standards Kolesar Jul 2013 #24
Really? Do you have Links to support your Opinion? KoKo Jul 2013 #30
Yep, why should Europeans put up with our spying. truedelphi Jul 2013 #5
Europeans should put up with "our" spying because it's the Republicans' fault and Obama doesn't have AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #16
Puh LEASE! The Dems have two top notch Democratic Senators truedelphi Jul 2013 #32
So PO must have allied with those two before he announced he was running for POTUS? n/t ReRe Jul 2013 #39
My personal belief is that Obama made a decison right after the election of 2008. truedelphi Jul 2013 #45
For the last three years defacto7 Jul 2013 #8
What is their response? I am curious about a person's usual take on this. truedelphi Jul 2013 #33
What is their response? defacto7 Jul 2013 #36
Thanks. I am sorry to hear that you have lost income because although you are truedelphi Jul 2013 #46
hahahahahahaha! ellie Jul 2013 #10
Hey, you, get off of my cloud GeorgeGist Jul 2013 #11
DUZY!!! GliderGuider Jul 2013 #12
LOL :) nt Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #27
Well, they could always just do business with each other. Oh wait.....it's the EU. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #14
No. The EU suspects that the US is stealing the trade secrets of EU countries. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #15
Well, various EU states have been caught stealing US trade secrets jeff47 Jul 2013 #22
Is France still part of the EU? Someone should tell Francois. He's screaming the loudest. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #25
You missed out they could always do business dipsydoodle Jul 2013 #19
yes, because China, Russia etc dbackjon Jul 2013 #23
Aren't they already doing that? Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #26
Do it! AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #17
It's a good idea that may make the US government come around to their senses Rstrstx Jul 2013 #18
As you can tell from my sig line ...I am pro-bug ...and anti-monitor... L0oniX Jul 2013 #21
Much Talk and Bravado...they won't do this. KoKo Jul 2013 #29
Really? Heywood J Jul 2013 #40
Looks like the chickens, BillyRibs Jul 2013 #34
EU has their own Big Brother network - blkmusclmachine Jul 2013 #35
Data is easy.... defacto7 Jul 2013 #37
"Could be" compromised? Fearless Jul 2013 #38
But...but....Snowdens just lying.....!!!! Katashi_itto Jul 2013 #43
it`s the fox news of russia...RT news madrchsod Jul 2013 #44
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