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Peace Patriot

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35. At first I thought you were talking about President Obama and his...
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 03:32 AM
Jul 2013

"hystrionic" waylaying of the Bolivian president's official jet and the Bolivian president, by use of lapdogs in European countries. But then I noticed your DU name--"Stupidity"--and I realized that you were calling President Ortega of Nicaragua and President Maduro of Venezuela "authoritarian"--who have kidnapped no one, let alone the elected and revered president of Bolivia, and have drone-bombed no one, and have designated no one as an "enemy combatant" to get around "prisoner of war" laws and socked them away forever in extrajudicial prisons, and have made war on no one, and who, on the contrary, have made a lot of peace, and are furthermore advocates of the poor, of ordinary people and of forgotten and excluded people--presidents like our own FDR who have worked to bring a "New Deal" to their people by popular demand.

"Reds"? "Authoritarians"?



I'm old. I remember Joe McCarthy and have lived through all of the HORRIBLE crimes of my own country in the name of oppressing and killing "Reds." Your comment is ludicrously out-of-date and uninformed.

It is President Obama who is wrong in this case, and who is acting authoritarian. He should be immunizing Snowden and inviting him home to tell all, to Obama and to us. He should indeed be praising his courage and thanking him--instead of hunting him in order to punish and silence him. He should be apologizing to President Morales, who, as head of state in Bolivia, holds the power of asylum, and, IF Snowden had been on his plane, had the RIGHT to offer him protection as an asylum-seeker--a right that, by international law and diplomatic protocol, cannot be taken from a duly elected and recognized head of state. The diversion of his official plane and his detention were wrong, and lawless, from start to finish. Obama should admit it and apologize. But he is not likely to. Why? Because HE represents a country that picks and chooses the laws that it will obey!

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K&R !!! idwiyo Jul 2013 #1
Why did he wait until after he left Moscow to make this grand declaration? Eddie coulda hitched. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #2
He is not a dictator. He probably had to meet with and consult other members of the government. totodeinhere Jul 2013 #9
You think he means it this time? He'll be safe in Venezuela as long as he doesn't go out. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #14
Or he could return to the USA and get tortured like Bradley Manning has. totodeinhere Jul 2013 #17
Then I say GO FOR IT! Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #18
I'm sure you would say that. n/t totodeinhere Jul 2013 #23
Remember, Tarheel_Dem hates all Latin Americans muriel_volestrangler Jul 2013 #39
Jesus! bitchkitty Jul 2013 #43
I'm GLAD it didn't get hidden. bvar22 Jul 2013 #46
The ignorance, bigotry, and xenophobia on display is bad enough, bvar22 Jul 2013 #45
The Anti-Snowden pro-fascist are an embarrassment to humanity. Forgot10Hiro Jul 2013 #49
I think Tarheel_Dem's bigotry is for its own sake, though muriel_volestrangler Jul 2013 #53
All ES needs is a valid passport to leave Russia. xtraxritical Jul 2013 #31
"If the Venezuelans are serious", couldn't they have done that b/4 he left HK? Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #32
I dunno. xtraxritical Jul 2013 #42
How do we know he is still in that airport? JDPriestly Jul 2013 #37
Pffttt!! To equate Snowden to a banker is ridiculous. Forgot10Hiro Jul 2013 #47
CNN reporting Nicaragua has also offered asylum. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2013 #3
BBC has it now as well maddezmom Jul 2013 #12
We have officially moved to Red on the Color Coded Authoritarian Hystrionics scale. Warren Stupidity Jul 2013 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author YOHABLO Jul 2013 #6
Stick around, you'll find out. Warren Stupidity Jul 2013 #7
Was it the word "fugitive" that did it, by chance? nt silvershadow Jul 2013 #29
At first I thought you were talking about President Obama and his... Peace Patriot Jul 2013 #35
Did you mean 'histrionics'.... nt. Forgot10Hiro Jul 2013 #48
I'm lbamign th ipda. Warren Stupidity Jul 2013 #54
I hope DU stocked up on these. The crazy is gonna be in full swing. Arctic Dave Jul 2013 #5
Oh they are going to lose. Their. Minds. /nt Ash_F Jul 2013 #11
speak for yourself ... eom Kolesar Jul 2013 #16
Now why would you assume I was talking about you? Ash_F Jul 2013 #41
I got my popcorn ready Malik Agar Jul 2013 #26
Here... silvershadow Jul 2013 #30
Oh I don't think even one of those could constrain 'some'. That said, the division of positions on Purveyor Jul 2013 #27
Finally, some real news. Coyotl Jul 2013 #8
Saw that coming. /nt Ash_F Jul 2013 #10
Response frontier00 Jul 2013 #15
Never Happen frontier00 Jul 2013 #13
This time I bet the bully backs down. DeSwiss Jul 2013 #20
Convicted without a trial. The American way for people who stand up while everyone else sits down Nanjing to Seoul Jul 2013 #28
How do you know Snowden is still in the airport? JDPriestly Jul 2013 #38
Why doesn't Obama have eyes on Clapper? Forgot10Hiro Jul 2013 #50
K&R DeSwiss Jul 2013 #19
Snow-job can't run frontier00 Jul 2013 #21
You've been watching too many movies. Grow up. n/t DeSwiss Jul 2013 #22
Unfortunately Snowden is why people are talking about Snowden. Socal31 Jul 2013 #44
Venezuela is a stunningly beautiful country, bvar22 Jul 2013 #24
Whenever a Latin American country makes a statement not putting US interests first, Judi Lynn Jul 2013 #25
K&R pam4water Jul 2013 #33
Snowden Offered Asylum In Two Countries dipsydoodle Jul 2013 #34
Kudos and laurel wreaths to President Maduro and to President Ortega! Peace Patriot Jul 2013 #36
I cannot help but to compare.... AnneD Jul 2013 #40
I hope they got that TP shortage all squared away. bunnies Jul 2013 #51
and several dif. types of planes can get there... allin99 Jul 2013 #52
I wish the best for this young, brave, heroic man. nt Forgot10Hiro Jul 2013 #55
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