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BronxBoy

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67. This is where I often feel that well meaning folks....

Sun Jul 7, 2013, 12:36 PM

Jul 2013

go astray. Shallo and misplaced analysis does no one any good.

The issue right now is not what the effects of Roundup is on human health. I think that is a longer term issue that is worthy of discussion. I think the immediate concern is why the acceptable levels had to be raised at this point in time. If Roundup is doing its job as its supposed to do, why the need for a dramatic increase in allowable usage?

Well I'm just a farmer and not a scientist but I think the answer has to do in large part with the increasing prevalence of Roundup resistant weeds. Here in Georgia, Glyphosate resistant weeds, especially pigweed. is becoming an ever increasing problem. Could this be why the acceptable levels were increased? The weeds have more immunity so we need to dump more roundup on the weeds? And if that's the case, at some point wouldn't there be valid concerns about the effects on human health now or should we wait until peer reviewed studies are conducted down the road when acceptable application levels are 50 or 100 % of what the original standards were?

So while potential effects on human health is definitely an important issue in this discussion, I believe the immediate issue is why Roundup appears to be losing its arms race against the world of weeds.

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EPA Raises Levels of Glyphosate Residue Allowed in Food [View all] Coyotl Jul 2013 OP

The cumulative build up isn't even considered, one assumes. another_liberal Jul 2013 #1

Interesting point. How much does glyphosphate build up in the human system? Buzz Clik Jul 2013 #16

I don't think anyone knows yet. JoeyT Jul 2013 #39

Probably only to a very small degree if at all Celefin Jul 2013 #65

Not to mention the effect it has/would have on succeeding generations... drokhole Jul 2013 #53

Disgusting fasttense Jul 2013 #2

Profit is the goal. nineteen50 Jul 2013 #6

The bad news is that it can travel in the water table as well as up the food chain. Ford_Prefect Jul 2013 #25

Bought and paid for. NCarolinawoman Jul 2013 #3

EPA just like Obama is in Monsanto's pockets. forestpath Jul 2013 #4

Lookout. Your post is going to get deleted. loudsue Jul 2013 #29

Just like Bush was still in office MotherPetrie Jul 2013 #5

Yep. The corporations don't care which pol is nominally in charge GliderGuider Jul 2013 #11

They are fucking killing us! L0oniX Jul 2013 #7

I know what you mean. Millions dead from glyphosate already, and they don't care. Buzz Clik Jul 2013 #17

lol! n/t Inkfreak Jul 2013 #27

The horror. Why I developed HUMONGOUS LESIONS immediately after roseBudd Jul 2013 #35

You can live a long time with Multiple Sclerosis, Parkinsons & ALS. Berlum Jul 2013 #66

Buy organic cprise Jul 2013 #8

Amy's organic soy RILib Jul 2013 #10

Dont worry.... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2013 #32

It's so comforting to know that the governmental agencies taxpayers pay for are looking out for us AndyA Jul 2013 #9

+ 1. n/t truedelphi Jul 2013 #37

All those foods, when organic, are relatively affordable. roody Jul 2013 #12

K & R ctsnowman Jul 2013 #13

Food ??? SamKnause Jul 2013 #14

And even people who are so brainwashed truedelphi Jul 2013 #38

"The crops that grow on RoundUp-contaiminated soil lack key and essential nutrients." False roseBudd Jul 2013 #57

Your disputing the Caens researchers may or may not be valid. truedelphi Jul 2013 #62

BTW, i would love to know if you ahe seen this article, or ones similar, truedelphi Jul 2013 #63

The head of EPA used to work for... TRoN33 Jul 2013 #15

The last EPA administrator was a career civil servant Major Nikon Jul 2013 #18

Facts don't matter with this crowd. Buzz Clik Jul 2013 #20

The poster has 110 posts and so is hardly "this crowd" curlyred Jul 2013 #22

Please feel free to scan this thread for some nuggets of scientific truth. Buzz Clik Jul 2013 #24

Peer reviewed study published in 2000 Major Nikon Jul 2013 #26

Excellent post. Highlights: Buzz Clik Jul 2013 #44

Does no one care about the suffering of the weeds? Weeds deserve to live roseBudd Jul 2013 #60

.. Buzz Clik Jul 2013 #61

human poisoning with this herbicide is not with the active ingredient alone but with complex and var Coyotl Jul 2013 #49

I'm not sure you fully understand what you just posted Major Nikon Jul 2013 #50

I can read, trust me! Coyotl Jul 2013 #54

OK, just not sure how this is relevant to "Glyphosate Residue Allowed in Food" Major Nikon Jul 2013 #55

What is sad is there are real issues, time wasted on BS hysteria... roseBudd Jul 2013 #42

Thank you, thank you, thank you. Buzz Clik Jul 2013 #45

I don't jump on band wagons. I do research by seeking uunbiased sources... roseBudd Jul 2013 #56

Fucking EPA! Fucking Monsanto! Bob Perciasepe used to work for .... what? Buzz Clik Jul 2013 #19

Is this Glenn Beck's blackboard? roseBudd Jul 2013 #43

.. Buzz Clik Jul 2013 #46

Round-Up Causes Birth Defects Crow73 Jul 2013 #21

You believe the science is even close to settled on that issue? Buzz Clik Jul 2013 #23

The issue raised contained no new research Major Nikon Jul 2013 #28

Yeah mikeypooh Jul 2013 #30

By the same token you could say science isn't close to settled that humans are the cause of avaistheone1 Jul 2013 #33

If someone said the science isn't settled on global warming,... Buzz Clik Jul 2013 #40

I smell a rat. As in shiny objects divert attention. roseBudd Jul 2013 #58

No, really roseBudd Jul 2013 #47

Change. nt awoke_in_2003 Jul 2013 #31

Monsanto sucks. avaistheone1 Jul 2013 #34

Time to die. DeSwiss Jul 2013 #36

You do realize that this is about Roundup and not GMOs. Buzz Clik Jul 2013 #51

POISON blkmusclmachine Jul 2013 #41

I guess the effects will be none of our beeswax. eom Festivito Jul 2013 #48

Actually the effects of Roundup on humans have been published in the scientific literature... Buzz Clik Jul 2013 #52

Perhaps the Round Up haters all live in condos & are thus blissfully unaware... roseBudd Jul 2013 #59

There are a multitude of reasons to limit glyphosate use... Celefin Jul 2013 #64

This is where I often feel that well meaning folks.... BronxBoy Jul 2013 #67