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heaven05

(18,124 posts)
38. hmmm
Tue Jul 9, 2013, 09:53 PM
Jul 2013

a livable wage is one where an average family, 2parents, two kids? can have a decent roof over their head, decent meals every day, can pay the usual utilities ect and even enjoy time out together once a month or so. Decent car, able to put fuel in it. I was making 25.00 an hour before I retired. In that economy that was decent. The prices keep going up and/or fluctuating. Utility companies charge an arm and a leg for their services. Coming from a family that in growing up sometimes had to depend on government food supplements, where I ended my working career was good. Decent today? The same wage per hour or 50,000 a year salaried as mentioned above or a little more for a family of four. My family was my wife and my step daughter. We made due. Yeah, IT and telecom are good paying jobs, but realistically a majority of people in this society now are in the lower paying jobs like, 7-11, meijers, target, walmart, gas stations. Mall type jobs, food service industry. A lot of older people working in McDonalds ect now. Never saw that before and they do not pay that well. Car factories, post office jobs pay well, but they are not doing a lot of hiring. I was blue collar, with a college education. Most people are not college grads. Some people here want to lament my negativity about america's businesses not offering it's citizens a livable wage but corporate mentality now, I repeat is slave wage and no health care, not livable wage. Control of the populace is much easier that way. Corporations own the world and have the control to keep us groveling. And it's getting worse. No rose colored glasses here, like some of the arrogant sheeple on here believing the lies of better job/wage outlook, it's just not true. But I don't have to prove anything to anyone, time will bear me out. It will only get worse, not better with the slave wages offered to a majority of current american workers. I hope I didn't belabor the point and that I answered your question.

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yeah heaven05 Jul 2013 #1
What a bunch of poisonous, cart-before-horse nonsense. phleshdef Jul 2013 #2
no heaven05 Jul 2013 #4
Grow up. phleshdef Jul 2013 #7
you heaven05 Jul 2013 #8
Good grief.. you can always count on someone here pissing in the punch bowl.. DCBob Jul 2013 #3
that's right heaven05 Jul 2013 #5
Such bold statements in this thread.. complete with sufficient smilies. DCBob Jul 2013 #13
that's right! heaven05 Jul 2013 #17
It's a little confusing that you adamantly declare that you don't care... Thor_MN Jul 2013 #29
WTF? dotymed Jul 2013 #6
Because employment is rising and wages are rising or holding steady. Igel Jul 2013 #35
Thinking ppl should always look under the covers at the numbers askeptic Jul 2013 #9
But that is to be expected until we are at full employment. phleshdef Jul 2013 #10
you're talking about the normal business cycle Enrique Jul 2013 #11
The Great Depression took far longer to pull out of. phleshdef Jul 2013 #12
Negotiating advantage? heaven05 Jul 2013 #15
Its not a dream world. Its math. phleshdef Jul 2013 #18
skewed heaven05 Jul 2013 #22
"Your kind of democrat thinking"... well that reveals a whole hell of a lot. phleshdef Jul 2013 #23
Only 7% of the private sector is organized and has a contract. There is no bargaining w/o byeya Jul 2013 #28
There is, in a more indirect way. phleshdef Jul 2013 #32
I didn't think you were anti-union. It's just that the social situation you outline doesn't occur byeya Jul 2013 #33
You are probably correct, but not for corporations. dotymed Jul 2013 #40
another heaven05 Jul 2013 #14
And another valueless response from yourself. phleshdef Jul 2013 #16
I don't heaven05 Jul 2013 #19
More like you don't discuss anything that you can't actually refute. phleshdef Jul 2013 #20
whatever heaven05 Jul 2013 #21
Yup. Thats what I thought. phleshdef Jul 2013 #24
not heaven05 Jul 2013 #25
More spouting off without actually saying anything. phleshdef Jul 2013 #26
oh please heaven05 Jul 2013 #36
LOL. You just sound drunk or something now. phleshdef Jul 2013 #39
What do you consider to be an average livable wage? penultimate Jul 2013 #27
hmmm heaven05 Jul 2013 #38
Wow. Brigid Jul 2013 #30
You should have seen some of the responses when I posted positive econ news a couple of years Purveyor Jul 2013 #31
We needed a bigger stimulus Blue Bike Jul 2013 #34
Hooray, more McJobs n/t markpkessinger Jul 2013 #37
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