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laundry_queen

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39. Actually, from what I understand
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 03:20 AM
Jul 2013

is that she received lungs that generally would've been rejected because they were such poor quality because her situation was so dire. So, no one likely died because she got lungs. If someone is stable on the transplant list (ie not immediately dying) then they usually wait for decent quality lungs. Many are rejected. So they took the rejects and gave them to this dying girl as a last ditch attempt to save her. I don't see what's so awful about it. Those 2 hypothetical adults you talk about probably wouldn't have received those lungs anyway.

Here in Canada, there is no age restrictions. From what I understand, it's about who is the sickest, period. There are so few children who need lung transplants that it doesn't make any noticeable difference in wait times at all. The issue should be is why there are so few organ donors. Talk to your family - register if you can also, but talking to your family is the most important thing. Learn about the myths and realities.

One of the realities about lung transplantation is that lungs only last, on average, 5 years. Many people develop chronic rejection after a year or 2. It's pretty much a crapshoot for anyone looking for lungs. It's a shitty situation to be in, adult or child. The chances are, even if this child pulls through the pneumonia (which is common, especially since the second set of lungs were actually infected when she received them) and makes a full recovery - chances are she'll be back at square 1 before 5 years is up. She very likely won't grow up.

Also, many people on the list are waiting for their second set of lungs. They've already had their chance - now they need another chance. Is that fair, if someone is waiting for their first chance? What about people who destroyed their own lungs through smoking? What about this one woman I read about - she had a particular issue that made it so she was rejected at many lung transplant centers around the country. She finally found one that would take her, but she was already very sick. Her chances of surviving any length of time after a transplant was crappy because of her issue, but this one transplant center did her transplant despite the dire outlook and statistics. That person is alive today 7 years later. Should she have not gotten lungs because she was supposedly not likely to survive? Do you see what I'm getting at? The ethical issues are complex and I don't think it's accurate or fair to say because this child got 2 sets of lungs, 2 people have to die. That's not how it works.

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I hope so much that they can stop the infection. CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2013 #1
How can she survive so many surgeries? Yo_Mama Jul 2013 #21
She can still pull through. darkangel218 Jul 2013 #2
This whole story sorely pisses me off. Hulk Jul 2013 #3
Two sets...the first didn't work. dkf Jul 2013 #4
That's what I intended to say. Hulk Jul 2013 #5
Thank you for pointing this out. It's important. COLGATE4 Jul 2013 #27
Thank you for making an important point.... Rowdyboy Jul 2013 #37
Actually, from what I understand laundry_queen Jul 2013 #39
Haven't read that info anywhere. Hulk Jul 2013 #41
Maybe you need to read more laundry_queen Jul 2013 #42
Wow... RudynJack Jul 2013 #15
The first one didn't take. dkf Jul 2013 #16
Right...it didn't take "to a adolescent girl". Hulk Jul 2013 #17
weren't those rules in place before Obama became President ? JI7 Jul 2013 #8
I hate to say this, but it is likely that this child will die anyway. After all the organs Squinch Jul 2013 #29
The rules had nothing to do with the Obama administration Yo_Mama Jul 2013 #20
well there is NO reasoning with those right wing rat bastards alp227 Jul 2013 #22
Ugh! Honestly, though, lung transplants are always a long shot. nt Deep13 Jul 2013 #6
I didn't realize that. How bad? dkf Jul 2013 #7
50% of all lung transplants are dead within the first five years after the surgery. CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2013 #9
Not good. Thanks. dkf Jul 2013 #10
Which is why at 61 years of age I won't be getting one. Doesn't make sense to transplant lungs to Monk06 Jul 2013 #18
I'm so sorry to hear that Monk. The best of luck to you. Auntie Bush Jul 2013 #33
I don't mind my life has been hard but I just can't stand to see children suffer or young people cut Monk06 Jul 2013 #34
That, believe it or not, represents quite an improvement. nt Deep13 Jul 2013 #23
I'm sure it does. CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2013 #24
A friend's sister had a lung transplant. leftyladyfrommo Jul 2013 #28
Ok, so when is enough, enough? Lunabelle Jul 2013 #11
All those surgeries! That poor child. Demit Jul 2013 #12
As many as it takes ... Igel Jul 2013 #13
I can't even imagine what they must be feeling. Demit Jul 2013 #14
Well, a child should not be considered a battle field. Deep13 Jul 2013 #30
The parents may well be preparing themselves for her eventual passing Sheldon Cooper Jul 2013 #35
Yeah, hard to guess when we are not faced with that situation. nt Deep13 Jul 2013 #36
I agree. laundry_queen Jul 2013 #40
This is just horrible Sgent Jul 2013 #19
Artificial lungs? telclaven Jul 2013 #25
I think its called the Novo Lung NNguyenMD Jul 2013 #38
The MSM covered up that her 1st transplant totally failed, and she was given 2 more lungs. graham4anything Jul 2013 #26
because the MSM was part of those that was making Sebelius and Obama out to be the bad guy JI7 Jul 2013 #31
The second set of lungs were adult lungs infected with pneumonia DeschutesRiver Jul 2013 #32
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