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Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
16. I know
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 09:50 AM
Jul 2013

And the fact that we cannot know for sure what happened between the time he hung up and when the shot was fired is why he will likely walk.

To get a conviction, the prosecution has to lay out a chain of events of what happened beyond a reasonable doubt. They simply haven't. I don't quite understand what they are doing, they are acting more like defense attorneys and trying to just muddy waters- but creating reasonable doubt about the defense doesn't get a win for the prosecution.

I think if the prosecution had gone for manslaughter from the beginning, and laid out a case that by carrying a gun while doing his neighborhood watch and also pursuing Trayvon he created a circumstance that led to the shooting that was 100% unavoidable, they could have stood a much better chance of getting a manslaughter conviction. But they didn't, they went for a bridge too far with M2- and because they didn't argue the case for manslaughter, it is less likely the jury will see the picture like that.

My WBC church analogy was because the same premise of law applies to provocation or instigation-words spoken to you, no matter how distasteful, are never a justification for the use of physical force (with some very, very, very limited exceptions). I don't doubt that some of the WBC assholes carry guns, and if they followed people instead of standing in one place it wouldn't change that. Some folks intentionally abuse this part of the law to bait people into striking first, then use it to their advantage. The WBC does so because they can get money from it. Zimmerman could have because he knew if he got Trayvon hit hit first that he could shoot and claim self defense.

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Yeah...never mind the shot, dead teen and the guy with the hot gun muttering "fucking punks." MADem Jul 2013 #1
That this wasn't a homicide investigation from git go Californeeway Jul 2013 #2
Welcome to DU, Californeeway! calimary Jul 2013 #4
You'll be Happy to Know lib87 Jul 2013 #5
Ex-Sanford police chief Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2013 #14
why has this racist piece of shit come out at this time ? JI7 Jul 2013 #3
Can you provoke a fight and then shoot and kill the person you provoked? Loudly Jul 2013 #6
I hate to say yes Lee-Lee Jul 2013 #9
Which really doesn't matter if true or not, because Zimmerman didn't attempt to back away Thor_MN Jul 2013 #11
I agree he is at fault Lee-Lee Jul 2013 #12
We can not even know if there was a "first blow" Thor_MN Jul 2013 #13
I know Lee-Lee Jul 2013 #16
Seriously? You believe an unproven punch can be justification for shooting someone? Thor_MN Jul 2013 #23
What is can be Lee-Lee Jul 2013 #25
it looks like you posted this before Bernie's closing today.. I'm curious Voice for Peace Jul 2013 #40
Not really Lee-Lee Jul 2013 #41
To follow up a little Lee-Lee Jul 2013 #44
You know what, John2 Jul 2013 #15
That isn't how the law works Lee-Lee Jul 2013 #17
That is not how the law work in John2 Jul 2013 #22
But Lee-Lee Jul 2013 #24
If I was a kid John2 Jul 2013 #27
Giving you concern Lee-Lee Jul 2013 #29
It is very strange, John2 Jul 2013 #30
Actually I am not taking that view Lee-Lee Jul 2013 #32
OK, I see John2 Jul 2013 #33
I disgree Lee-Lee Jul 2013 #34
Stalking likely has a specific meaning and following someone whole reporting their movements to the 24601 Jul 2013 #37
I tend to agree Lee-Lee Jul 2013 #38
If they couldn't come up with probable cause after 40 days davidpdx Jul 2013 #7
It seemed to John2 Jul 2013 #19
Did CNN interview the City Manager to see if he agreed with Lee's description? Jim__ Jul 2013 #8
city manager and city officials are tight lipped the lawsuits coming upon acquittal will be large ceonupe Jul 2013 #26
This is total bull. John2 Jul 2013 #28
because in FL if you are acquitted of Murder you cant be sued in civil court ceonupe Jul 2013 #31
That's interesting rpannier Jul 2013 #10
Did the investigator not recommend to the DA to press charges that night? Ash_F Jul 2013 #18
That is why this John2 Jul 2013 #21
I'm fairly certain this would have been handled differently Mz Pip Jul 2013 #20
Good. reflection Jul 2013 #35
Florida is run by Republicans LiberalLovinLug Jul 2013 #36
I hate to ever think there is that much corruption in the system Lee-Lee Jul 2013 #39
There's a very good reason you were elbowed out of the way, shit bag Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #42
They botched the case DonCoquixote Jul 2013 #43
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