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HardTimes99

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54. My post was directed at Shawn703's proclivity for drawing lines, the
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 09:51 AM
Jul 2013

easier to hold people accountable for crossing them. I was not crying over Bush "not going to jail." I was decrying the fact that Bush, Cheney and the entire Junta will escape accountability in the form of investigation, indictment, trial and verdict (and, at the very end, a sentence).

If Snowden crossed any line (arguable), then surely Bush and Cheney crossed the chasm between civilization and barbarity.

You can call a desire to see justice done 'naive.' Myself, I prefer to think that no man is above the law, even though reality often convinces me otherwise, particularly when those who face the bar of justice lack adequate funds.

Want to know whe people don't take Obama seriously any longer? Because he chases Snowden with a ferocity unseen in the annals of modern man, all the while declaring he won't 'scramble jets.' Meanwhile, an admitted torturer (Cheney) openly brags about his war crimes on national television and there's not so much as an investigation.

BTW, I'm not a "liberal," I'm a radical.


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Silly voters! They need some shills at a popular Democratic Web site to help set them straight. n/t RufusTFirefly Jul 2013 #1
Remember - I love weed Jul 2013 #3
Probably know almost nothing about him but what they hear on the news treestar Jul 2013 #2
Umm... I love weed Jul 2013 #4
Are our constitutional rights violated by cops on the side of the road with radar guns? Zorro Jul 2013 #6
I think so. Fantastic Anarchist Jul 2013 #8
Roads are public areas Ash_F Jul 2013 #20
Care to answer the question? Zorro Jul 2013 #49
Why is this an EC Jul 2013 #9
you're heaven05 Jul 2013 #13
Absolutely true about the sheep warrant46 Jul 2013 #52
Still, without the choice "leaker" treestar Jul 2013 #36
You're right. They probably don't care about his personal details as much as what he revealed. Demit Jul 2013 #5
I hope Kerry, Feinstein, Clapper and Co. are sweating Demeter Jul 2013 #7
They are probably taking comfort from the gender gap on the issue. lumberjack_jeff Jul 2013 #12
He's still going to jail. Sorry fans. MjolnirTime Jul 2013 #10
Who would have guessed, Progressive dog Jul 2013 #11
Are you SURE you want that question answered? =) Volaris Jul 2013 #18
The question they asked assumes they know the details. onehandle Jul 2013 #14
stand up like a man... frylock Jul 2013 #23
Daniel Ellsberg and Bradley Manning did so. nt onehandle Jul 2013 #28
yes they did. look where manning is now.. frylock Jul 2013 #31
Except Manning had a perfectly legal way to whistleblow about anything he thought was illegal cstanleytech Jul 2013 #57
oh, now, THAT question of yours would be objective. Not! grasswire Jul 2013 #27
Exactly - without the choice of "leaker" treestar Jul 2013 #37
And a week ago, when some one posted a poll showing the American people JoePhilly Jul 2013 #15
From the same poll: OilemFirchen Jul 2013 #40
k&r for exposure. n/t Laelth Jul 2013 #16
Quinnipiac is obviously racist. progressoid Jul 2013 #17
and Libertarian :sarcasm: - nt HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #29
He's both if he released info to foreign gov. nt brush Jul 2013 #19
Once people realize these programs haven't stopped a single attack, it will be higher /nt Ash_F Jul 2013 #21
K & R ...a university poll just might be more intellectually valid than one from the general pulic. L0oniX Jul 2013 #22
He crossed the line for me shawn703 Jul 2013 #24
It's the "how", not the "what" that he disclosed that crosses the line. AlinPA Jul 2013 #26
Just curious about line crossing for you. Does allowing the former political HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #32
This crying over Bush not going to jail just strikes me as naive. Californeeway Jul 2013 #50
Defending looking forward on war crimes? JoeyT Jul 2013 #51
I dont recall him defending Bush rather he explained why Obama didnt waste time trying cstanleytech Jul 2013 #58
My post was directed at Shawn703's proclivity for drawing lines, the HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #54
What may be the most disturbing part of the entire operations... NoOneMan Jul 2013 #34
How can we haved that discussion christx30 Jul 2013 #42
When he first released the information about domestic spying shawn703 Jul 2013 #47
And I'm perfectly ok with that. christx30 Jul 2013 #56
If you're okay with disclosing surveillance activities to our geopolitical rivals shawn703 Jul 2013 #59
Because foreigners are not people, right? Ash_F Jul 2013 #53
Of course they're people shawn703 Jul 2013 #55
Saw a cartooon in June that had him as a "Traitriot". AlinPA Jul 2013 #25
The noise of chaos polynomial Jul 2013 #30
And this voter is not so stupid..... AnneD Jul 2013 #33
"Why do we even have need for a program like prism in the first place" NoOneMan Jul 2013 #35
Now.... AnneD Jul 2013 #38
It is an interesting result but the use of the word "traitor" may have been a factor. grantcart Jul 2013 #39
Fascinating question. OilemFirchen Jul 2013 #41
Look at that... Harmony Blue Jul 2013 #43
Voters seem to be fickled. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #44
The isssue isn't clear cut as you portray it Harmony Blue Jul 2013 #45
!!! Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #46
Big brother cares not a whit what the public thinks. The proof is in the way the Congress indepat Jul 2013 #48
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