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54. I'm not a 'duty to retreat' fan, either.

Thu Jul 11, 2013, 10:50 AM

Jul 2013

I dislike the law for exactly the reasons you state; personally, I'm a 'castle doctrine' supporter and, to a very limited extent, a 'stand your ground' supporter. As to your first argument/question, The Illinois Supreme Court has ruled repeatedly and unanimously that in 'criminal' situations like the Zimmerman/Martin one, emergency-services dispatchers "...may be considered to be (sworn) law-enforcement officers, for the limited purposes of the statute...." (placing a duty on the individual to obey the 'lawful commands' of a law-enforcement officer).

As you undoubtedly know, the laws governing such situations vary widely, from state to state.

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