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37. Stalking likely has a specific meaning and following someone whole reporting their movements to the
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 08:45 PM
Jul 2013

police dispatcher would rise to the level of a crime. Approaching another person on the sidewalk is not a crime. The police testified under oath that Zimmerman following Martin broke no law. They also testified that telling Zimmerman that they did not need him to follow Martin was not a police order because of two reasons - the first being that the dispatcher is not a sworn officer and secondly because they were not permitted to give such an order.

So the issue comes down to who took the first swing and therefore (il)legally became the aggressor. The other person becomes the non-aggressor is entitled to self defense and under Florida law has no duty to retreat. There has been no credible evidence introduced identifying the aggressor and, coupled with the legal standard that a defendant is not guilty until proved otherwise, the existence of reasonable doubt isn't really in question if the jury follows the law and applies the evidence.

Tragic that a young man was killed? Absolutely. Proved beyond a reasonable doubt that Zimmerman threw the 1st punch and was the aggressor? Not even close. Convince me that someone with a gun is going to going to start a fight with bare hands - that dog don't hunt.

OJ walked with a much stronger case murder case against him. Don't expect a conviction here either.

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Yeah...never mind the shot, dead teen and the guy with the hot gun muttering "fucking punks." MADem Jul 2013 #1
That this wasn't a homicide investigation from git go Californeeway Jul 2013 #2
Welcome to DU, Californeeway! calimary Jul 2013 #4
You'll be Happy to Know lib87 Jul 2013 #5
Ex-Sanford police chief Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2013 #14
why has this racist piece of shit come out at this time ? JI7 Jul 2013 #3
Can you provoke a fight and then shoot and kill the person you provoked? Loudly Jul 2013 #6
I hate to say yes Lee-Lee Jul 2013 #9
Which really doesn't matter if true or not, because Zimmerman didn't attempt to back away Thor_MN Jul 2013 #11
I agree he is at fault Lee-Lee Jul 2013 #12
We can not even know if there was a "first blow" Thor_MN Jul 2013 #13
I know Lee-Lee Jul 2013 #16
Seriously? You believe an unproven punch can be justification for shooting someone? Thor_MN Jul 2013 #23
What is can be Lee-Lee Jul 2013 #25
it looks like you posted this before Bernie's closing today.. I'm curious Voice for Peace Jul 2013 #40
Not really Lee-Lee Jul 2013 #41
To follow up a little Lee-Lee Jul 2013 #44
You know what, John2 Jul 2013 #15
That isn't how the law works Lee-Lee Jul 2013 #17
That is not how the law work in John2 Jul 2013 #22
But Lee-Lee Jul 2013 #24
If I was a kid John2 Jul 2013 #27
Giving you concern Lee-Lee Jul 2013 #29
It is very strange, John2 Jul 2013 #30
Actually I am not taking that view Lee-Lee Jul 2013 #32
OK, I see John2 Jul 2013 #33
I disgree Lee-Lee Jul 2013 #34
Stalking likely has a specific meaning and following someone whole reporting their movements to the 24601 Jul 2013 #37
I tend to agree Lee-Lee Jul 2013 #38
If they couldn't come up with probable cause after 40 days davidpdx Jul 2013 #7
It seemed to John2 Jul 2013 #19
Did CNN interview the City Manager to see if he agreed with Lee's description? Jim__ Jul 2013 #8
city manager and city officials are tight lipped the lawsuits coming upon acquittal will be large ceonupe Jul 2013 #26
This is total bull. John2 Jul 2013 #28
because in FL if you are acquitted of Murder you cant be sued in civil court ceonupe Jul 2013 #31
That's interesting rpannier Jul 2013 #10
Did the investigator not recommend to the DA to press charges that night? Ash_F Jul 2013 #18
That is why this John2 Jul 2013 #21
I'm fairly certain this would have been handled differently Mz Pip Jul 2013 #20
Good. reflection Jul 2013 #35
Florida is run by Republicans LiberalLovinLug Jul 2013 #36
I hate to ever think there is that much corruption in the system Lee-Lee Jul 2013 #39
There's a very good reason you were elbowed out of the way, shit bag Pretzel_Warrior Jul 2013 #42
They botched the case DonCoquixote Jul 2013 #43
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