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9. and here in lies the rub

Thu Jul 18, 2013, 01:47 PM

Jul 2013

the government has to prove a direct chain: Bradley - data - "enemy". But they cannot. They can prove he made it public, but they cannot prove that the enemy got any information direct from Bradley. Further, the government also has to proves that any of that information aided and abetted, and did damage to the US. They can't do that, either, and simply claiming damage without proof is not evidence. The case against Bradley was flimsy to begin with, even the government said there was no evidence that anything Bradley released did any damage, and much of what he released was already out there, and it boiled down to making an example of him.

The whole reason why the government came down on Bradley was because he found stark proof of covered up US war crimes. Bradley upheld his oath, and exposed the crimes.

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Her mind. nt msanthrope Jul 2013 #28

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