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caseymoz

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44. Did you read the qualifier?
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 08:35 PM
Feb 2012

I couldn't quite find a term for it, so I used a neologism. So I'll explain: I meant antisemitic in the same sense Pope Pius XII was, as opposed to the Adolf Hitler school of antisemitism.

I was raised as a Catholic in a solidly Catholic home, and a Catholic extended family. I know what I'm talking about. Patrick Buchanan considers the Jews "a stubborn, stiff-necked people" (a meme that has gone from one echelon of the Catholic hierarchy to the other and back for centuries), who just won't listen to the truth. He's suspicious of them; he thinks they're privileged and manipulative but that's tempered by a sympathy that never recognizes full equality. The suspicion can, with little reinforcement and encouragement, turn into downright bigotry that destroys any sympathy whatsoever.

It's the sort of person who would struggle to save Jews from the concentration camp, but would be agreeable to confiscating from and segregating them. The sort of person who would see the silver lining of the holocaust as being all the Jewish converts to Catholicism. They would say Hitler was wrong about that Holocaust and WWII thing, but they sure understand why he was pissed at the Jews. And like Pius, it's the sort of person who would call Hitler evil, but might have praise Franco and Salazar. They're not exactly Holocaust deniers, but you mention six million Jews were murdered, they'll say, yeah, but the Gypsies suffered worse.

These are my relatives. Buchanan's views on Jews are the same as my Dad's. You talk to many Catholics, and this is the attitude that you'll find. And to them, this isn't a description of bigotry. This attitude is normalized with them they don't discuss it outside their families enough to notice that there's anything off about it.

It's the sort of Catholic influenced very much by Pius XII papacy, when this was the dominant attitude, and definitely the dominant one among students in Catholic schools when I attended them. So please don't tell me that some aren't like this. I know they aren't. But how many have you talked to about this? Really? It's not an active hatred, but a side-effect of having a thought process receptive to doctrines they can't question.

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Pat Buchanan out at MSNBC [View all] Redstate Bluegirl Feb 2012 OP
About fucking time! n/t teddy51 Feb 2012 #1
My exact words. Zoeisright Feb 2012 #49
That fucking ass hole should have been banished from the airwaves years ago... WCGreen Feb 2012 #2
The whitelisters over at Fox News will welcome you with open arms, Pat. Old and In the Way Feb 2012 #3
Is that "Whitelisters" or MurrayDelph Feb 2012 #32
He'll be at FuxNews inside a month center rising Feb 2012 #4
At Least at Fuxs I wont have to worry about his creepyness suprising me while watch Hardball. rsmith6621 Feb 2012 #9
Pat Buchanan joins Faux News in 3...2... Faygo Kid Feb 2012 #38
Alleluia!!! lovuian Feb 2012 #5
He probably isn't extreme enough for Fox JJW Feb 2012 #6
Hope he took his sheets and pointy hat with him. madamesilverspurs Feb 2012 #7
Forty years too late. caseymoz Feb 2012 #8
Now that's a high-brow and appropriate rant. It made my morning. n/t Mira Feb 2012 #16
Bravo! Myrina Feb 2012 #19
The MSM loved him as the sage old white man spokesperson lunatica Feb 2012 #22
K&R... stonecutter357 Feb 2012 #33
This may shock you Redstate Bluegirl Feb 2012 #40
Did you read the qualifier? caseymoz Feb 2012 #44
Well I'm a Lutheran Redstate Bluegirl Feb 2012 #45
He' hosting a new game show call 'Wait, Wait don't Ichingcarpenter Feb 2012 #10
well, some Fox "contributor" will be pissed that he'll be taking thier air time... JHB Feb 2012 #11
Woohoo! Drunken Irishman Feb 2012 #12
To Pat's credit, he was against the Iraq War and vocal about it Kolesar Feb 2012 #13
To Pat's credit he was a pro Hitler, racist, antisemite, Ichingcarpenter Feb 2012 #15
So was the British National Party; that doesn't make them good people. LeftishBrit Feb 2012 #21
You are attributing to me a statement that I did not make Kolesar Feb 2012 #29
Pat did have moments of insight wtmusic Feb 2012 #25
Is that the same MSNBC that's supposedly "the liberal answer to Fox News"? nxylas Feb 2012 #14
....hmmm ejbr Feb 2012 #17
That's a start. sarcasmo Feb 2012 #18
Good! LeftishBrit Feb 2012 #20
He's been around since Nixon was President lunatica Feb 2012 #24
I don't remember anything as overtly racist as this wtmusic Feb 2012 #26
Today's racists are out of the closet thanks to the teabaggeratti lunatica Feb 2012 #28
Good Riddance Pat Puke-Cannon!! lastlib Feb 2012 #23
YES!!!!! Stellar Feb 2012 #27
About time. sinkingfeeling Feb 2012 #30
His personal network will continue to beat the Race War drums. nt patrice Feb 2012 #31
they didn't know this about him for the past ten years? orleans Feb 2012 #34
Good. jwirr Feb 2012 #35
How about Morning Joke next? MarkCharles Feb 2012 #36
Gee Turbineguy Feb 2012 #37
As my grandmother used to say, beac Feb 2012 #39
'Scuse me whilist I warm up the band.... Fearless Feb 2012 #41
+1 that band kicks ASS. sarcasmo Feb 2012 #55
Why? Ron Paul is running for President and he's just as racist as Pat ever was. Major Hogwash Feb 2012 #42
Buh bye Pukecannon! Don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya! muntrv Feb 2012 #43
Should have been done a long time ago. center rising Feb 2012 #46
Ohio? Redstate Bluegirl Feb 2012 #48
The really big boil on America's ass is Fux Noise Mosaic Feb 2012 #47
I never have paid attention to him. Neoma Feb 2012 #50
Why did he even get hired in the first place Mkap Feb 2012 #51
A voice in the choir. the BIG LIE. underpants Feb 2012 #54
NBC's execs are slow n/t tooeyeten Feb 2012 #52
One thing's for certain Zorro Feb 2012 #53
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