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kristopher

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48. No I do not think that is even close to being accurate.

Wed Jul 24, 2013, 11:14 PM

Jul 2013

I think it is a shitty (and inaccurate) attempt to keep attacking the President after the basis for this thread's attacks was shown to be Bunk.

You may not agree with the killing of Americans who have overtly joined a group actively engaged in plotting to attack the US, but that doesn't mean it has any similarity at all to the discussion on MJ
Nor does it mean that there is not, in fact, a sound legal basis for his actions re killing malevolent citizens that have expatriated themselves to avoid the reach of the legal system. It may be an UnConstitutional legal framework, but it is the purpose of the Supreme Court to make that judgement.

In any case, he has no authority to order the JD to stand down - no matter how much I wish he did in this particular case.

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Federal agents raid marijuana dispensaries in Washington [View all] Jesus Malverde Jul 2013 OP

OBAMA HAS LIED TOTALLY ABOUT BUSTING MEDICAL MARIJUANA drynberg Jul 2013 #1

In this Rolling Stone interview he explains the crackdown on medical marijuana dispensaries. Billy Pilgrim Jul 2013 #31

That is fucking BULLSHIT!!! n/t DeSwiss Jul 2013 #36

The bullshit is the law itself. Billy Pilgrim Jul 2013 #39

Well then I suppose it's horseshit..... DeSwiss Jul 2013 #43

It's a large variety of different types of shit. Agreed. Billy Pilgrim Jul 2013 #46

Yes, he does Nevernose Jul 2013 #62

in my area Niceguy1 Jul 2013 #85

The people who think you have to be sick to smoke pot are ruining it for everyone. FiveGoodMen Jul 2013 #117

California law allows for Niceguy1 Jul 2013 #120

Screw that. No one needs to ''pretend'' anything. DeSwiss Jul 2013 #118

Yes it is. Otherwise we would be seeing daily raids of big hedge funds and banks. nt Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #122

"I can't nullify congressional law" tazkcmo Jul 2013 #41

You've won a Kewpie Doll!!! DeSwiss Jul 2013 #51

Bastards. Why Syzygy Jul 2013 #45

This is a real reply Why Syzygy Jul 2013 #49

I hope you arent defending that bullshit. One of the most important powers of the executive branch rhett o rick Jul 2013 #76

Well BobbyBoring Jul 2013 #109

By "change," I guess he meant "from what I'm saying, to what I'll do" villager Jul 2013 #126

So fucked up. ZombieHorde Jul 2013 #2

What makes you think he has the authority to order Justice to not enforce valid laws? kristopher Jul 2013 #20

Well, because he has. AtheistCrusader Jul 2013 #24

He ordered that because of his view that DOMA was unconstitutional. pnwmom Jul 2013 #28

Wasn't it President Nixon John2 Jul 2013 #113

Yes wis vet69 Jul 2013 #121

He never ordered anyone not to enforce DOMA while it was a valid law. kristopher Jul 2013 #29

But he could order the federal DoJ to stop enforcing it in states where it is explicitly AtheistCrusader Jul 2013 #55

He COULD, but it almost certainly wouldn't be consistent with the law. kristopher Jul 2013 #73

Prosecutorial Discretion RainDog Jul 2013 #80

Well, I'm not a lawyer either, but..... DeSwiss Jul 2013 #37

No I do not think that is even close to being accurate. kristopher Jul 2013 #48

You're entitled to your opinion..... DeSwiss Jul 2013 #52

Nobody can really believe that. I love weed Jul 2013 #110

Or he could just do the same thing he has done with illegal immigration ripcord Jul 2013 #98

The Congressional Research Report disagrees with you RainDog Jul 2013 #56

Please provide a reference. kristopher Jul 2013 #58

sure. I was hoping you'd actually make your own effort RainDog Jul 2013 #60

You cited the paper, it is polite to include a link or titled reference kristopher Jul 2013 #69

you're welcome RainDog Jul 2013 #70

Obama is aligned with the entirety of the opinion kristopher Jul 2013 #71

This is not a partisan issue RainDog Jul 2013 #75

I just heard that Obama is going to give us all a job and help the middle class .... MindMover Jul 2013 #78

This issue is going to go for legalization RainDog Jul 2013 #79

Prohibition ruined a lot of lives and we learned nothing from that gargantuan fuckup .... MindMover Jul 2013 #81

The break up of prohibition altered the power base within the Democrats RainDog Jul 2013 #83

I really enjoy your writing and thoughts ...and hope that you are writing or speaking MindMover Jul 2013 #111

thanks RainDog Jul 2013 #116

Yep, Obama is desperately trying to end the drug war but the dastardly TeaPubliKlans TheKentuckian Jul 2013 #124

would you also like links for arrest stats for various administrations? RainDog Jul 2013 #64

In his 2008 campaign, President Obama VOWED he would not "use Justice Dept.resources to try red dog 1 Jul 2013 #72

That is a misquote. kristopher Jul 2013 #74

"I would not have the Justice Department prosecuting and raiding medical marijuana users. red dog 1 Jul 2013 #119

Lack of bankers and war criminals in prison. JoeyT Jul 2013 #82

Seems to me . . . Richard D Jul 2013 #99

This is the one thing that bothers me most about the President Betsy Ross Jul 2013 #3

... questionseverything Jul 2013 #27

He kept his promise kristopher Jul 2013 #30

Which one? DeSwiss Jul 2013 #40

Post removed Post removed Jul 2013 #50

Wow, how "reasonable" of them to suggest they won't explicitly look to bust grannies in wheelchairs Warren DeMontague Jul 2013 #77

coupled with his total disregard of Koch Bros dumping in Ark and now the Detroit River bank wordpix Jul 2013 #47

Koch Bros are above the law - dincha know that? ConcernedCanuk Jul 2013 #94

apparently that's what Obama, EPA and DOJ think wordpix Jul 2013 #96

Sad Lonr Jul 2013 #66

But if we criticize this we are called "haters" hobbit709 Jul 2013 #4

+1 FreeState Jul 2013 #6

and that my friend ... CountAllVotes Jul 2013 #10

I thought we're Glen Greenwald Libertarians Doctor_J Jul 2013 #13

That's the latest bad name of the day. It all fits under the generic term "haters" hobbit709 Jul 2013 #16

It's comforting to know I'm not a racist any more Doctor_J Jul 2013 #17

I'm up to 18 at this point, which I find a source of great amusement. hobbit709 Jul 2013 #18

I don't post much tazkcmo Jul 2013 #44

I actually thought this shit would end under the Obama presidency. Boy, was I ever wrong. Throd Jul 2013 #5

I fear .... dusty trails Jul 2013 #8

Unfortunately I was not Scairp Jul 2013 #9

And she was going to be much different? Wilms Jul 2013 #32

I meant overall Scairp Jul 2013 #63

Oh please. Hillary is just as much as an establishment hack as Obama is. Chakab Jul 2013 #65

the reality is that the work gets done by activists RainDog Jul 2013 #67

LOTE Voting is soooooo 2012. eilen Jul 2013 #132

I disagree. Voting matters A LOT RainDog Jul 2013 #133

Wow Scairp Jul 2013 #86

Whew! Now I feel safer! Orrex Jul 2013 #7

You should! Brewinblue Jul 2013 #14

and so why were they raided? RussBLib Jul 2013 #107

sorry, I meant to post this reply to the OP, not here. RussBLib Jul 2013 #108

Medical marijuana, now that's something Holder will go after. blkmusclmachine Jul 2013 #11

He directly told us in Oregon that he would not 'waste resouces' raiding Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #12

He also said he'd insist on single payer/public option Doctor_J Jul 2013 #15

And yet he thinks we should trust him. matthews Jul 2013 #38

I dont know what he thinks burnodo Jul 2013 #93

democracy and the will of the people mean nothing to the "feds" on this issue nt msongs Jul 2013 #19

So, any federal law can be nullified if the voters of a state say so? Freddie Stubbs Jul 2013 #91

When a law make the majority criminals, then it's the law that is criminal. n/t nebenaube Jul 2013 #112

What is the case law on that legal theory? Freddie Stubbs Jul 2013 #123

Show me just cause where possession of pot is a crime. nebenaube Jul 2013 #130

Has anyone avoided a conviction by arguing that? Freddie Stubbs Jul 2013 #135

And I'm fairly sure I saw the defenders theaocp Jul 2013 #21

The DEA works for the Mexican cartel PatrynXX Jul 2013 #22

result of a two year investigation???!!!!???? postatomic Jul 2013 #23

hence PatrynXX Jul 2013 #25

Typical of the Federal Government, sorry to say. AtheistCrusader Jul 2013 #26

Potheads. . .America's most dangerous criminals. They murder. . .twinkies! one box at a time. Nanjing to Seoul Jul 2013 #33

USA's war on drugs has a real purpose, especially regardin MJ - MIC priority ConcernedCanuk Jul 2013 #95

Yay!!!! stevil Jul 2013 #128

Obama would not have legal precedent to block the DEA from enforcing federal law. Billy Pilgrim Jul 2013 #34

+1 kristopher Jul 2013 #35

The Justice Department shifted position in 2011 with the Cole memo... Comrade Grumpy Jul 2013 #53

Then why did he say he would stop them? Doctor_J Jul 2013 #54

The DEA is THE problem RainDog Jul 2013 #57

DISGUSTING. Is there anything Obama hasn't lied about? forestpath Jul 2013 #42

He said that today, he'd be seen as an 80's Republican. DeSwiss Jul 2013 #59

He seems to take great pride in describing himself as a Republican. forestpath Jul 2013 #101

Updates Jesus Malverde Jul 2013 #61

Not A Path To Hold The Progressive Base colsohlibgal Jul 2013 #68

you're a cool guy, mr. president!!1 Blue Palasky Jul 2013 #84

really sucks. The state collects taxes, fees. Provides the Feds with easy list of names and address. Sunlei Jul 2013 #87

Obama Lied! RandiFan1290 Jul 2013 #88

DEA to legalize MJ chemical for Big Pharma; keep it a crime for everyone else(2011). Divernan Jul 2013 #89

DEA described as "armed enforcement branch of Big Pharma" Divernan Jul 2013 #92

Washington now??? Le Taz Hot Jul 2013 #90

The Banksters have powerful Lawyers warrant46 Jul 2013 #131

Can we hope for a jury nullification? I don't know the law on this.... socialist_n_TN Jul 2013 #97

Judge or jury is a defendant option. former9thward Jul 2013 #103

honestly, what do these raids solve? Javaman Jul 2013 #100

Jury nullification is the answer 1Greensix Jul 2013 #102

Absolutely! wildbilln864 Jul 2013 #105

If they put me on a jury and bring this nonsense to me, the DOJ will be wasting our money. John2 Jul 2013 #114

So pot is a priority but war criminals and Wall Street are not? on point Jul 2013 #104

is it fascism yet? n/t wildbilln864 Jul 2013 #106

you forgot to add environmental criminals getting away with dumping toxics wordpix Jul 2013 #125

Holder's Retribution for Voting to Legalize pot?? 99th_Monkey Jul 2013 #115

They want to have it both ways..... DeSwiss Jul 2013 #127

These dispensaries may be in violation of state law RainDog Jul 2013 #129

Lame. Foolish. Bad for economy. Good for Big Pharma. zonkers Jul 2013 #134