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102. Jury nullification is the answer

Thu Jul 25, 2013, 09:08 AM

Jul 2013

Washington jurors need to demonstrate to the Feds that they will NOT convict for possession of sale in Washington, no matter what Obama wants them to do.

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Federal agents raid marijuana dispensaries in Washington [View all] Jesus Malverde Jul 2013 OP

OBAMA HAS LIED TOTALLY ABOUT BUSTING MEDICAL MARIJUANA drynberg Jul 2013 #1

In this Rolling Stone interview he explains the crackdown on medical marijuana dispensaries. Billy Pilgrim Jul 2013 #31

That is fucking BULLSHIT!!! n/t DeSwiss Jul 2013 #36

The bullshit is the law itself. Billy Pilgrim Jul 2013 #39

Well then I suppose it's horseshit..... DeSwiss Jul 2013 #43

It's a large variety of different types of shit. Agreed. Billy Pilgrim Jul 2013 #46

Yes, he does Nevernose Jul 2013 #62

in my area Niceguy1 Jul 2013 #85

The people who think you have to be sick to smoke pot are ruining it for everyone. FiveGoodMen Jul 2013 #117

California law allows for Niceguy1 Jul 2013 #120

Screw that. No one needs to ''pretend'' anything. DeSwiss Jul 2013 #118

Yes it is. Otherwise we would be seeing daily raids of big hedge funds and banks. nt Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #122

"I can't nullify congressional law" tazkcmo Jul 2013 #41

You've won a Kewpie Doll!!! DeSwiss Jul 2013 #51

Bastards. Why Syzygy Jul 2013 #45

This is a real reply Why Syzygy Jul 2013 #49

I hope you arent defending that bullshit. One of the most important powers of the executive branch rhett o rick Jul 2013 #76

Well BobbyBoring Jul 2013 #109

By "change," I guess he meant "from what I'm saying, to what I'll do" villager Jul 2013 #126

So fucked up. ZombieHorde Jul 2013 #2

What makes you think he has the authority to order Justice to not enforce valid laws? kristopher Jul 2013 #20

Well, because he has. AtheistCrusader Jul 2013 #24

He ordered that because of his view that DOMA was unconstitutional. pnwmom Jul 2013 #28

Wasn't it President Nixon John2 Jul 2013 #113

Yes wis vet69 Jul 2013 #121

He never ordered anyone not to enforce DOMA while it was a valid law. kristopher Jul 2013 #29

But he could order the federal DoJ to stop enforcing it in states where it is explicitly AtheistCrusader Jul 2013 #55

He COULD, but it almost certainly wouldn't be consistent with the law. kristopher Jul 2013 #73

Prosecutorial Discretion RainDog Jul 2013 #80

Well, I'm not a lawyer either, but..... DeSwiss Jul 2013 #37

No I do not think that is even close to being accurate. kristopher Jul 2013 #48

You're entitled to your opinion..... DeSwiss Jul 2013 #52

Nobody can really believe that. I love weed Jul 2013 #110

Or he could just do the same thing he has done with illegal immigration ripcord Jul 2013 #98

The Congressional Research Report disagrees with you RainDog Jul 2013 #56

Please provide a reference. kristopher Jul 2013 #58

sure. I was hoping you'd actually make your own effort RainDog Jul 2013 #60

You cited the paper, it is polite to include a link or titled reference kristopher Jul 2013 #69

you're welcome RainDog Jul 2013 #70

Obama is aligned with the entirety of the opinion kristopher Jul 2013 #71

This is not a partisan issue RainDog Jul 2013 #75

I just heard that Obama is going to give us all a job and help the middle class .... MindMover Jul 2013 #78

This issue is going to go for legalization RainDog Jul 2013 #79

Prohibition ruined a lot of lives and we learned nothing from that gargantuan fuckup .... MindMover Jul 2013 #81

The break up of prohibition altered the power base within the Democrats RainDog Jul 2013 #83

I really enjoy your writing and thoughts ...and hope that you are writing or speaking MindMover Jul 2013 #111

thanks RainDog Jul 2013 #116

Yep, Obama is desperately trying to end the drug war but the dastardly TeaPubliKlans TheKentuckian Jul 2013 #124

would you also like links for arrest stats for various administrations? RainDog Jul 2013 #64

In his 2008 campaign, President Obama VOWED he would not "use Justice Dept.resources to try red dog 1 Jul 2013 #72

That is a misquote. kristopher Jul 2013 #74

"I would not have the Justice Department prosecuting and raiding medical marijuana users. red dog 1 Jul 2013 #119

Lack of bankers and war criminals in prison. JoeyT Jul 2013 #82

Seems to me . . . Richard D Jul 2013 #99

This is the one thing that bothers me most about the President Betsy Ross Jul 2013 #3

... questionseverything Jul 2013 #27

He kept his promise kristopher Jul 2013 #30

Which one? DeSwiss Jul 2013 #40

Post removed Post removed Jul 2013 #50

Wow, how "reasonable" of them to suggest they won't explicitly look to bust grannies in wheelchairs Warren DeMontague Jul 2013 #77

coupled with his total disregard of Koch Bros dumping in Ark and now the Detroit River bank wordpix Jul 2013 #47

Koch Bros are above the law - dincha know that? ConcernedCanuk Jul 2013 #94

apparently that's what Obama, EPA and DOJ think wordpix Jul 2013 #96

Sad Lonr Jul 2013 #66

But if we criticize this we are called "haters" hobbit709 Jul 2013 #4

+1 FreeState Jul 2013 #6

and that my friend ... CountAllVotes Jul 2013 #10

I thought we're Glen Greenwald Libertarians Doctor_J Jul 2013 #13

That's the latest bad name of the day. It all fits under the generic term "haters" hobbit709 Jul 2013 #16

It's comforting to know I'm not a racist any more Doctor_J Jul 2013 #17

I'm up to 18 at this point, which I find a source of great amusement. hobbit709 Jul 2013 #18

I don't post much tazkcmo Jul 2013 #44

I actually thought this shit would end under the Obama presidency. Boy, was I ever wrong. Throd Jul 2013 #5

I fear .... dusty trails Jul 2013 #8

Unfortunately I was not Scairp Jul 2013 #9

And she was going to be much different? Wilms Jul 2013 #32

I meant overall Scairp Jul 2013 #63

Oh please. Hillary is just as much as an establishment hack as Obama is. Chakab Jul 2013 #65

the reality is that the work gets done by activists RainDog Jul 2013 #67

LOTE Voting is soooooo 2012. eilen Jul 2013 #132

I disagree. Voting matters A LOT RainDog Jul 2013 #133

Wow Scairp Jul 2013 #86

Whew! Now I feel safer! Orrex Jul 2013 #7

You should! Brewinblue Jul 2013 #14

and so why were they raided? RussBLib Jul 2013 #107

sorry, I meant to post this reply to the OP, not here. RussBLib Jul 2013 #108

Medical marijuana, now that's something Holder will go after. blkmusclmachine Jul 2013 #11

He directly told us in Oregon that he would not 'waste resouces' raiding Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #12

He also said he'd insist on single payer/public option Doctor_J Jul 2013 #15

And yet he thinks we should trust him. matthews Jul 2013 #38

I dont know what he thinks burnodo Jul 2013 #93

democracy and the will of the people mean nothing to the "feds" on this issue nt msongs Jul 2013 #19

So, any federal law can be nullified if the voters of a state say so? Freddie Stubbs Jul 2013 #91

When a law make the majority criminals, then it's the law that is criminal. n/t nebenaube Jul 2013 #112

What is the case law on that legal theory? Freddie Stubbs Jul 2013 #123

Show me just cause where possession of pot is a crime. nebenaube Jul 2013 #130

Has anyone avoided a conviction by arguing that? Freddie Stubbs Jul 2013 #135

And I'm fairly sure I saw the defenders theaocp Jul 2013 #21

The DEA works for the Mexican cartel PatrynXX Jul 2013 #22

result of a two year investigation???!!!!???? postatomic Jul 2013 #23

hence PatrynXX Jul 2013 #25

Typical of the Federal Government, sorry to say. AtheistCrusader Jul 2013 #26

Potheads. . .America's most dangerous criminals. They murder. . .twinkies! one box at a time. Nanjing to Seoul Jul 2013 #33

USA's war on drugs has a real purpose, especially regardin MJ - MIC priority ConcernedCanuk Jul 2013 #95

Yay!!!! stevil Jul 2013 #128

Obama would not have legal precedent to block the DEA from enforcing federal law. Billy Pilgrim Jul 2013 #34

+1 kristopher Jul 2013 #35

The Justice Department shifted position in 2011 with the Cole memo... Comrade Grumpy Jul 2013 #53

Then why did he say he would stop them? Doctor_J Jul 2013 #54

The DEA is THE problem RainDog Jul 2013 #57

DISGUSTING. Is there anything Obama hasn't lied about? forestpath Jul 2013 #42

He said that today, he'd be seen as an 80's Republican. DeSwiss Jul 2013 #59

He seems to take great pride in describing himself as a Republican. forestpath Jul 2013 #101

Updates Jesus Malverde Jul 2013 #61

Not A Path To Hold The Progressive Base colsohlibgal Jul 2013 #68

you're a cool guy, mr. president!!1 Blue Palasky Jul 2013 #84

really sucks. The state collects taxes, fees. Provides the Feds with easy list of names and address. Sunlei Jul 2013 #87

Obama Lied! RandiFan1290 Jul 2013 #88

DEA to legalize MJ chemical for Big Pharma; keep it a crime for everyone else(2011). Divernan Jul 2013 #89

DEA described as "armed enforcement branch of Big Pharma" Divernan Jul 2013 #92

Washington now??? Le Taz Hot Jul 2013 #90

The Banksters have powerful Lawyers warrant46 Jul 2013 #131

Can we hope for a jury nullification? I don't know the law on this.... socialist_n_TN Jul 2013 #97

Judge or jury is a defendant option. former9thward Jul 2013 #103

honestly, what do these raids solve? Javaman Jul 2013 #100

Jury nullification is the answer 1Greensix Jul 2013 #102

Absolutely! wildbilln864 Jul 2013 #105

If they put me on a jury and bring this nonsense to me, the DOJ will be wasting our money. John2 Jul 2013 #114

So pot is a priority but war criminals and Wall Street are not? on point Jul 2013 #104

is it fascism yet? n/t wildbilln864 Jul 2013 #106

you forgot to add environmental criminals getting away with dumping toxics wordpix Jul 2013 #125

Holder's Retribution for Voting to Legalize pot?? 99th_Monkey Jul 2013 #115

They want to have it both ways..... DeSwiss Jul 2013 #127

These dispensaries may be in violation of state law RainDog Jul 2013 #129

Lame. Foolish. Bad for economy. Good for Big Pharma. zonkers Jul 2013 #134