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PorridgeGun

(80 posts)
21. Piece of garbage?
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 09:48 AM
Aug 2013

A superpower that flogs its supposed commitments to freedom, democracy, and human rights to the point of comical hubris while at the same time running the greatest secret mass surveillance operation in history (in addition to the drones, the torture, and the way Manning was treated) deserves to be exposed for its own sake, and damn the consequences.

I've read several (often sneering) posts directing those here who think we are living in a surveillance/police state to talk to someone who had lived in a "real" police state.

Such people know as little about history as they do about surveillance and intelligence work. The NSA? Surely you jest. The volume and quality of information at the fingertips of any employer conducting a full background check is something that could have existed only in the wet dreams of a 1950's agent of the Stasi or KGB.

It might be interesting and perhaps instructive to compare the per capita incarceration rates and the conditions of incarceration of the US at present and Russia under Stalin or East Germany under the Stasi.

Also, I don't seem to recall too many accounts of the east german police playing soldier dress-up and running around tasering mental patients to death or slotting family dogs. I guess even in a police state, some things are just too much. Until recently anyway.

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Fugitive Snowden can leave Moscow airport: lawyer dipsydoodle Aug 2013 #1
good nt xchrom Aug 2013 #2
Maybe sooner than expected. dipsydoodle Aug 2013 #3
+1000 RetroLounge Aug 2013 #25
! xchrom Aug 2013 #29
@BreakingNews: NSA leaker Snowden receives asylum in Russia and leaves Moscow airport, lawyer says - Hissyspit Aug 2013 #4
Thanks for the link. Stay safe, Edward Snowden. You have earned some peace and comfort. chimpymustgo Aug 2013 #7
Indeed dipsydoodle Aug 2013 #8
This is nice to hear PorridgeGun Aug 2013 #16
If his information was all that valuable, he would not be in Russia. JDPriestly Aug 2013 #28
Great news newfie11 Aug 2013 #5
@wikileaks: FLASH: We can now confirm that Edward Snowden's welfare has been continuously monitored Hissyspit Aug 2013 #6
@AP: BREAKING: Edward Snowden granted 1 year temporary asylum in Russia, lawyer says, Russian news a Hissyspit Aug 2013 #9
Guess he won't be coming home anytime soon now, will he?? Major Hogwash Aug 2013 #10
If ever. dipsydoodle Aug 2013 #11
I think the last American that defected to Russia stayed for 22 months. Major Hogwash Aug 2013 #14
Would you rather live in Russia or spend 30+ years in prison? davidn3600 Aug 2013 #15
Russia is a changed place. Moscow if that is where he will stay totodeinhere Aug 2013 #24
If he can be a system's administrator cyclezealot Aug 2013 #12
Plus English is a second language for many Russians, especially professionals. n/t totodeinhere Aug 2013 #23
До свидания! KinMd Aug 2013 #13
Stop Jumping For Joy frontier00 Aug 2013 #17
How so? maddezmom Aug 2013 #18
because frylock Aug 2013 #31
You speaking for frontier or yourself? maddezmom Aug 2013 #32
that was a poor impersonation of our good patriot friend, frontier frylock Aug 2013 #33
.... maddezmom Aug 2013 #34
it's really hard to tell anymore frylock Aug 2013 #35
Making sense as always. Ash_F Aug 2013 #20
Piece of garbage? PorridgeGun Aug 2013 #21
LOL RetroLounge Aug 2013 #26
Christie? He is a blubbering fool. People will not like him and will not vote for him. JDPriestly Aug 2013 #30
Really? You have such little belief in the possible Democratic candidates muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #36
Moscow Rules warrprayer Aug 2013 #19
Excellent news, indeed! +1 eom Purveyor Aug 2013 #22
ROFL SoapBox Aug 2013 #27
Sorry, but we're locking this as a dupe. greatauntoftriplets Aug 2013 #37
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