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70. USA taught him well . .

Fri Aug 2, 2013, 02:19 PM

Aug 2013

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what is good for the goose is good for the gander.

USA had the first nukes, and USED them - on defenseless citizens -

So - those who could, and still can, are scrambling to deter the USA by having or developing their own nukes.

The big kerfuffle about Iran is a smokescreen - Iran ain't gonna attack anyone, especially not Israel who had over 200 nukes decades ago with the USA's assistance and blessing.

Iran wants to be left alone, just like North Korea.

They want DETERRENCE - everyone watches the USA bomb the shit out of whomever they feel like it.

No way they can hurt the USA or Israel in any real sense - they want the USA to know, if ya poke me, I'm gonna poke back.

And correct me if I'm wrong, was it not the USA that initiated killing from afar with drones operated by Nintendo Pilots?

Of course, other nations will follow.

No surprise there.

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Snowden has left the airport.... [View all] MADem Aug 2013 OP

this map might be helpful Enrique Aug 2013 #1

The report said he could stay if he kept his mouth shut, and he had a one year visa. MADem Aug 2013 #2

News reports have it that he is free to go where he wants to in Russia. totodeinhere Aug 2013 #11

It might not be up to him--see post seventeen, the link there... nt MADem Aug 2013 #18

Very unlikely - he's allowed to stay where he wants muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #14

Do you have a link that supports that assertion? All I've seen is stuff like this: MADem Aug 2013 #17

According to his Russian lawyer he can live anywhere he wants in Russia. totodeinhere Aug 2013 #19

Your link also says he will only be allowed to stay in "designated" places, though: MADem Aug 2013 #22

Yes but I was providing that link so that you will know where we are getting it from when we totodeinhere Aug 2013 #24

Of course Putin is going to have Snowden surrounded by security forces. ConcernedCanuk Aug 2013 #37

Or Viktor Bout's relatives. MADem Aug 2013 #38

"Why do you think Putin particularly cares about him?" - he doesn't. ConcernedCanuk Aug 2013 #40

Putin tires of his toys VERY QUICKLY! revmclaren Aug 2013 #45

No. He absolutely does care about Bout. Bout is a tough guy, and he knows many things. MADem Aug 2013 #56

Watched by drones too! revmclaren Aug 2013 #44

USA taught him well . . ConcernedCanuk Aug 2013 #70

REALLY....????? revmclaren Aug 2013 #83

"*could* be relocated..." muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #20

I will believe Reuters before I believe Wikileaks--they've been known to adjust the truth to suit MADem Aug 2013 #21

Snowden himself, doesn't need to say or do anything 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #25

hahahahahhah... Ellipsis Aug 2013 #9

I'd post the appropriate rejoinder but delicate flowers would hide the thread. KittyWampus Aug 2013 #12

LMFAO! - nt HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #15

That never gets old! backscatter712 Aug 2013 #16

Snowden left in a car, not a plane. That map is no help to him. DesMoinesDem Aug 2013 #53

Thanks for the info. NealK Aug 2013 #3

I am very glad he released the information he released. I am disapointed he did it the way he did... marble falls Aug 2013 #4

Well, he is now subject to Russian law. That might not be such a good thing for him. MADem Aug 2013 #5

I think you are correct. His adventure is not over. He's now a puppet used by two powers. marble falls Aug 2013 #6

"He's now a puppet used by two powers." NealK Aug 2013 #8

Hope he doesnt announce he's gay, then it'll be straight to jail!! 7962 Aug 2013 #31

No matter what it'll be a great reality show - living in airports in unfreindly nations. Title:.... marble falls Aug 2013 #49

I agree with you on some aspects. cstanleytech Aug 2013 #46

Putin is smiling ConcernedCanuk Aug 2013 #7

Yeah, Putin is having a lot of fun with this whole thing right now. NealK Aug 2013 #10

I think he is smiling through gritted teeth, actually. MADem Aug 2013 #57

Elvis has left the building. So there really IS a Snowden. KittyWampus Aug 2013 #13

Comrade Snowden now! revmclaren Aug 2013 #23

It's unlikely they'll let him work in his chosen field, either. MADem Aug 2013 #27

Not only that revmclaren Aug 2013 #28

It looks like Obama won't be raising a Stoli in Moskva with Pootie this September. MADem Aug 2013 #29

Why would Putin do that? cstanleytech Aug 2013 #47

Because by Greenwalds own words he is supporting Snowden. revmclaren Aug 2013 #48

I just dont see Putin reneging on the deal he made cstanleytech Aug 2013 #51

I think if Pootie could get two of his very valuable assets back, plus a couple of MADem Aug 2013 #58

Gerard Depardieu doesn't seem too worried about becoming Russian Lugal Zaggesi Aug 2013 #35

He should be worried about pissing people off...he's in hot water already!!!! MADem Aug 2013 #36

Oh no - raising eyebrows ! Lugal Zaggesi Aug 2013 #60

That was a charming film. He was brilliant in it. MADem Aug 2013 #62

Yes, I've seen the film - Depardieu is like a French DeNiro or Brando Lugal Zaggesi Aug 2013 #64

The Cold War didn't end. It just took a breather. MADem Aug 2013 #65

"If Pootie had his way, he'd reunify the glorious USSR. He's not Santa, he ran the KGB." Lugal Zaggesi Aug 2013 #68

You're playing the But But game. MADem Aug 2013 #69

You seem to be having trouble with dates today Lugal Zaggesi Aug 2013 #71

Here are some dates for you... MADem Aug 2013 #73

Your most recent citation is from 26 Jul 2013 Lugal Zaggesi Aug 2013 #74

Of course they are "allowed" to travel all over the world, but way to miss the point I made. MADem Aug 2013 #76

You seem disappointed Lugal Zaggesi Aug 2013 #78

I can't help but notice how often you use the "You seem........." card. MADem Aug 2013 #81

You don't speak French well, do you Lugal Zaggesi Aug 2013 #84

Meet the new boss BeyondGeography Aug 2013 #26

How fortunate he is to find asylum in this bastion of free speech and open, tolerant government... Agnosticsherbet Aug 2013 #30

Better than returning to face the type of abuse that Bradley manning faced. n/t totodeinhere Aug 2013 #32

yep ConcernedCanuk Aug 2013 #42

I bet President Obama wishes that Lugal Zaggesi Aug 2013 #33

We have one spy they really, really want... MADem Aug 2013 #34

Big difference between a spy and a whistle-blower methinks. ConcernedCanuk Aug 2013 #39

Not to Pootie--his "spy" is worth more than our "whatever" IMO. MADem Aug 2013 #41

A difference? Not to Putin. revmclaren Aug 2013 #43

Now if he would just leave DU we can do it Aug 2013 #50

That is not going to happen, I fear. MADem Aug 2013 #55

I agree, I tried hiding the Snowden threads, but he is not always in the title. we can do it Aug 2013 #59

It's a start, anyway. MADem Aug 2013 #63

So what happens when Snowden wants to leave Russia? benld74 Aug 2013 #52

That is the eternal question, I should imagine...! nt MADem Aug 2013 #54

He should have a new name, a Russian passport, Lugal Zaggesi Aug 2013 #61

USA should spread a rumor that Snowdon's a CIA agent spreadiing disinformation KinMd Aug 2013 #66

Who knows? Maybe he is? MADem Aug 2013 #67

so he needs a job now picking potatos or who supports him? Sunlei Aug 2013 #72

Unless he's amazingly frugal (in an expensive locale like HI), he had to have help. MADem Aug 2013 #75

Have fun Ed DonCoquixote Aug 2013 #77

As long as Russia doesn't throw him in prison for over 100 years Lugal Zaggesi Aug 2013 #79

Where, thankfully, the government does not spy on its citizens question everything Aug 2013 #80

Good thing for Ed, that! MADem Aug 2013 #82