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billh58

(6,655 posts)
71. When you're dealing
Sun Aug 4, 2013, 07:53 PM
Aug 2013

with the "cold dead hands" hardcore gun fetishists, reason doesn't work. They hide behind the Second Amendment as if it were a shield, and spew NRA propaganda from that "protected" place. They use statistics which have been cherry-picked by the NRA, and put them forth as the absolute final proof that guns for everybody is the only solution to an over-rated and media-driven gun problem in this country.

They also like to believe that they speak for "80,000,000" American gun owners, most of which are responsible and agree with many of the gun control measures being considered. The gun activists that frequent the right-wing Gungeon on DU, and other right-wing Internet gun sites, are in no way representative of typical American gun owners in general.

The obvious truth is that yes, the unfettered proliferation of guns in this nation is a big problem and those owners who deny that fact are a large part of the problem because they enable the NRA to buy and bully politicians.

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this heaven05 Aug 2013 #1
How about the Chicago mayor pipoman Aug 2013 #2
How about the wild west mentality engendered by illegal drugs? hack89 Aug 2013 #8
that's heaven05 Aug 2013 #11
I don't associate "Bubba" with inner city gangs hack89 Aug 2013 #22
okay heaven05 Aug 2013 #37
Better background checks and a crack down on criminals. hack89 Aug 2013 #39
I don't really see a difference between "Bubba" and uhh... "insert stereotypical name here" Sen. Walter Sobchak Aug 2013 #40
As a member of the " New England Educated Professional Culture" hack89 Aug 2013 #42
The problems with "Southern Culture" and "Urban Culture" go far beyond guns Sen. Walter Sobchak Aug 2013 #48
Yet many here lump me into one big "gun culture" hack89 Aug 2013 #54
Agreed. Reasonable and safe gun ownership is possible and common. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #60
There are some sort of open secrets. Igel Aug 2013 #56
Just to be clear here, Sen. Walter Sobchak Aug 2013 #70
Bubba? Symbol of Chicago murder culture? not buying it. Eleanors38 Aug 2013 #29
not heaven05 Aug 2013 #38
Guns are a cancer billh58 Aug 2013 #43
yep heaven05 Aug 2013 #51
I'll wait til I see the faces of the punks who do the killing... Eleanors38 Aug 2013 #45
well heaven05 Aug 2013 #55
A clear example of the smear and animosity used by controllers. Eleanors38 Aug 2013 #64
you're heaven05 Aug 2013 #65
You don't make sense, now. Prejudice will do that. nt Eleanors38 Aug 2013 #69
When you're dealing billh58 Aug 2013 #71
"Cold dead hands?" Like Bill Maher? Eleanors38 Aug 2013 #75
Or the mayor could run on the Guns and Dope Party ticket. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2013 #18
Most of the guns are being funneled in from Indiana gun shows. Chicago sounds like a war zone Heather MC Aug 2013 #50
The majority come from Illinois, followed by Indiana and Mississippi. hack89 Aug 2013 #53
Your picture doesn't match the story. In any event, I'm glad the girl is OK. NYC_SKP Aug 2013 #3
to me heaven05 Aug 2013 #10
True. Bubba is (was) a problem, but is only tangentially related to this crime and this story. NYC_SKP Aug 2013 #13
You're heaven05 Aug 2013 #16
I never meant to suggest that you, personally, were tying bubba to the crime. I agree with you. NYC_SKP Aug 2013 #20
true heaven05 Aug 2013 #36
Bubba??? branford Aug 2013 #33
I guess heaven05 Aug 2013 #35
I have been to some pretty hopeless places in the world, Sen. Walter Sobchak Aug 2013 #41
This is a case where I hope they are tried as adults. jwirr Aug 2013 #4
Ditto. That was a despicable crime. n/t RebelOne Aug 2013 #6
And this Red Knight Aug 2013 #5
Glad the cops got them Duckhunter935 Aug 2013 #7
There is this "Don't snitch" campaign going on in some communities. Archae Aug 2013 #9
Giving the police information can get you killed in some neighborhoods.. KinMd Aug 2013 #46
Poverty Is For Poor People grilled onions Aug 2013 #17
All 3 are probably NRA members and Zimmerman supporters. HolyMoley Aug 2013 #12
Didn't even look at the story, did you? nt dorkulon Aug 2013 #15
No. They are subjects of the 'trickle down' effect of gun nuttery. onehandle Aug 2013 #23
they probably are. samsingh Aug 2013 #26
I doubt it. Read the story next time. 840high Aug 2013 #27
Uh huh.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Aug 2013 #32
Definitely did not even click on the link, did they... NYC_SKP Aug 2013 #34
no heaven05 Aug 2013 #74
Wow ...so uhm it's not just Florida huh. When does the Chicago boycott begin? n/t L0oniX Aug 2013 #14
Shooting children - that is SOOOOOOOOOO sick. ConcernedCanuk Aug 2013 #19
Carrying guns in Chicago is illegal. HAVING them is illegal. Just like where you live. 7962 Aug 2013 #30
"SO whats different about where you are and Chicago I wonder?" ConcernedCanuk Aug 2013 #31
Right. So there are NO guns. (for the most part) Just like England 7962 Aug 2013 #44
A difference may be that the laws against gun-carrying gang members in Chicago have been lax. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #59
What I was trying to say ConcernedCanuk Aug 2013 #62
Including Switzerland? AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #63
Switzerland does not have a standing army - it's preparation for defense is a private militia. ConcernedCanuk Aug 2013 #66
Stay on topic. Switzerland has the world’s third-highest number of privately held guns per person, AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #67
"handguns" ConcernedCanuk Aug 2013 #68
They Used To Call It A War Zone grilled onions Aug 2013 #21
So time to arm kids now? alp227 Aug 2013 #24
GZ defense: "The girl looked suspicious-like. She coulda been wearing a suicide bomb or somethin'. valerief Aug 2013 #25
Yup. Igel Aug 2013 #57
I was thinking more gun-loving vigilanteism. What's the sense of having a gun valerief Aug 2013 #61
guns are enabling this type of crime samsingh Aug 2013 #28
What if Laquan, Tyrese, and Roosevelt had been stopped and frisked prior to the shooting..just askin KinMd Aug 2013 #47
and people want to disarm citizens... ileus Aug 2013 #49
Were they "standing their ground?" tabasco Aug 2013 #52
So "Bubba" is with this story because he's just symbolic for you. Igel Aug 2013 #58
I blame Chicago's gun culture. Pterodactyl Aug 2013 #72
I heaven05 Aug 2013 #73
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