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ceonupe

(597 posts)
6. The point is people
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 06:25 AM
Aug 2013

Don't belive government will limit itself with information it gets.

This is proven over and over again. This is the reason people don't support registration schemes and mandatory insurance and other "saftey" claims from the controllers because we see their long term goal. Gun controllers are on record pushing for even more restrictive measures and then they wonder why gun right supporters don't support their "saftey" pushes.

Look at the background checks bill. It was not until almost the very end that the gun controllers dropped their push to make it a national registration scheme. Heck they even tried to add AWB to the bill via amendment. People won't be fooled. If they were serious about background checks and that only they would have brought a clean bill. They did not and it failed for all to see. Now add in NSA scandal and you get a public that just does not trust it's government to act in its best intrests.

This lack of trust hurts progressive polices that need the power of the government to implement many of the changes we want. Kind of hard to get people to buy in when every other week we found out last weeks response to the spying was a lie and its deeper than they admit.

Another poster said it better than me.

Gun controllers really want no guns just like abortion saftey advocates really want no abortion.

In the abortion fight it is going to states to make certain rules and requirements for "saftey" but the real reason is discourage women from seeking abortions. The claim that abortion facility saftey and requirements need to be enhanced are just ways to reduce abvilibility and increase cost thus reducing access. Then the crazy polls that are manipulated to show majority of Americans support 20 week limits.


Gun controllers most of them admit they don't want civilian gun ownership so they start with small things to enhance their overall goal. Claiming "saftey" industry "regulation" restrictions on certain types purely for cosmetic reasons. And manipulative polling.

The play book for both is almost the same. Sorry you can't see that.

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And there we have it. eShirl Aug 2013 #1
Exactly my thought. No wonder ya can't legalize pot in this country. Jackpine Radical Aug 2013 #28
I will probably be testing this one. Downwinder Aug 2013 #2
The term .......... dothemath Aug 2013 #9
And you wonder why ceonupe Aug 2013 #3
Would it be possible to think of something besides weapons that kill people? BainsBane Aug 2013 #5
The point is people ceonupe Aug 2013 #6
It is a good point. nt Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #32
Sadly - Many Will Not See The Connection Between Massive Illegal Surveillance And Law Enforcement cantbeserious Aug 2013 #4
They'll see it. They'll either say "If you have nothing to hide..." OR matthews Aug 2013 #29
Who saw this coming?? Completely out of the blue! TransitJohn Aug 2013 #7
I know, right? eShirl Aug 2013 #12
Yeh, who would have ever suspected something like this could happen! nt Zorra Aug 2013 #18
Back when the USA PATRIOT Act was new... Octafish Aug 2013 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author silvershadow Aug 2013 #10
If you see something Say something campaign is big here in Wisconsin..... midnight Aug 2013 #11
leading to a complete collapse in faith in the justice system...as if nashville_brook Aug 2013 #14
K&R Solly Mack Aug 2013 #13
Thus, Byzantium. Ghost Dog Aug 2013 #15
This is not the land of the free. This is a police and prison state. davidn3600 Aug 2013 #16
I'd say : "Unbelievable"... but we all know better. AzDar Aug 2013 #17
USA! USA! USA! Freedumb ain't free, baby! City Lights Aug 2013 #19
Nixon originally created the DEA to be a private presidential army starroute Aug 2013 #20
Good God, I just went to that website. This whole freaking program was matthews Aug 2013 #30
You can bet this will be used against 'ecoterrorists' too. denverbill Aug 2013 #21
k&r. Wish this was the stuff of dystopian sci-fi, but it's all too real. n/t appal_jack Aug 2013 #22
Ugh. 47of74 Aug 2013 #23
The DEA is chomping at the bit to get their dirty hands on the NSA data base. L0oniX Aug 2013 #24
Mostly semantics - If NSA feeding them info, same as if they have access askeptic Aug 2013 #35
welcome to the gulag n/t warrprayer Aug 2013 #25
Whatever it takes to keep our Prison-Industrial Complex fat & happy 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #26
Well, score one for the tin foil hat crowd, huh? matthews Aug 2013 #27
K&R'd and bookmarked. snot Aug 2013 #31
Kick nt Hissyspit Aug 2013 #33
Kick n/t Tx4obama Aug 2013 #34
K&R#76 n/t bobthedrummer Aug 2013 #36
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