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wercal

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44. 100 mpg?

Tue Aug 6, 2013, 12:47 PM

Aug 2013

I think they advertise 93...and its mpge.

The 'e' stands for equivalent, and it is based on a lot of assumptions...and imho these assumptions make it impossible to actually compare mileage.

Why?

Well here's a challenge - take that 93 mpge Volt, charge it up, and put one gallon of gas in it. Will you go 93 miles? No.

It would be much simpler if the sticker gave the gasoline mpg, and miles per kwh.

A Volt sticker would be something like:

34 mpg/3 mpkwh

and a LEAF would be:

0 mpg/3.9 mpkwh....its listed as 129 mpge right now, which exceeds its range, and is really a meaningless way to portray its mileage.

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GM offers big price cut on Chevy Volt [View all] PoliticAverse Aug 2013 OP

I would barely be able to afford one if they divided the price by 10. hobbit709 Aug 2013 #1

The Electric Spark is coming.... DainBramaged Aug 2013 #2

Still way out of reach for me. hobbit709 Aug 2013 #3

More on the Spark... PoliticAverse Aug 2013 #9

I live in a house that cost less!!! nt MADem Aug 2013 #5

I need a car that go four hundred miles in a single charge. MADem Aug 2013 #4

The Volt can go as far as any car. Schema Thing Aug 2013 #6

That's good, then--now, if they can cut the price by seventy percent, I might be able to swing it! MADem Aug 2013 #8

believe me, I've been there. Schema Thing Aug 2013 #10

I know I am going to have to break down and buy a car with airbags, eventually... MADem Aug 2013 #12

There's a 2012 for sale for $17K already. AtheistCrusader Aug 2013 #43

Is that a normal depreciation, or is that one a lemon, do you think? MADem Aug 2013 #47

First gen prius's are still on the road, 12 years later, original battery packs still working. AtheistCrusader Aug 2013 #49

Even though I see Brian Griffin driving a Prius on late night cartoons, MADem Aug 2013 #51

A fairly amazing piece of engineering, I must say. AtheistCrusader Aug 2013 #52

Do they need to be driven daily, or often? MADem Aug 2013 #61

I'd put it on a trickle charger. AtheistCrusader Aug 2013 #62

Beg to differ. Hubby had a 1st gen Prius. Bette Noir Aug 2013 #63

Highly unusual. AtheistCrusader Aug 2013 #64

I have 2009 - Gen 2 Finishline42 Aug 2013 #68

same thing for one of my family Niceguy1 Aug 2013 #77

The Volt is a plug-in hybrid, it has a backup gasoline engine and a range of ~ 380 miles PoliticAverse Aug 2013 #7

That is less then my Cruze Eco..... happyslug Aug 2013 #71

Interesting. Thanks. n/t PoliticAverse Aug 2013 #72

I wish I could get one but I live in an apartment bigdarryl Aug 2013 #11

The charging issue is signicant. branford Aug 2013 #13

2013 Volt sales are about the same as 2012. There's increased competition in the marketplace. n/t PoliticAverse Aug 2013 #20

The sales might be the same, but they still are objectively bad. branford Aug 2013 #22

They need to build more plug in stations around the country bigdarryl Aug 2013 #53

Who is going to build these plug-in stations? branford Aug 2013 #60

GM Cuts Chevy Volt Price by $5,000 to Spur Sales PoliticAverse Aug 2013 #14

GM slashes Chevy Volt prices to spur flagging sales PoliticAverse Aug 2013 #15

Cars are outrageously priced. I bought a new 45 hp diesel tractor for $20,000. It will be on the toby jo Aug 2013 #16

I'm confused about "electric" cars being labeled "environmentally friendly" ... Myrina Aug 2013 #17

You can use a solar charger Marrah_G Aug 2013 #19

That's not all. branford Aug 2013 #23

Looks like an opportunity? Finishline42 Aug 2013 #26

You raise good points. branford Aug 2013 #29

Many communities get power from things other than coal AllyCat Aug 2013 #24

To begin with - Electric motors are more effecient than gas IC. Finishline42 Aug 2013 #25

Some calculations wercal Aug 2013 #28

Excellent analysis. n/t branford Aug 2013 #30

RE: Well, frankly, electric cars are not an environmental magic pill. Finishline42 Aug 2013 #33

I gave a CO2 analysis wercal Aug 2013 #37

Additionally, the choice will not always be between electric or gasoline. branford Aug 2013 #39

Bingo wercal Aug 2013 #42

I fear the perfect will always be the enemy of the good. branford Aug 2013 #46

I fear you are correct wercal Aug 2013 #67

I've lived in many countries where having a propane bottle in the trunk was the way to go. MADem Aug 2013 #48

I think people are making bad bets on the cost of NG, once the political opposition to fracking gain AtheistCrusader Aug 2013 #57

I think you're vastly overestimating the political opposition to fracking. branford Aug 2013 #59

PV panels suck. AtheistCrusader Aug 2013 #56

Some utilities do. Some do NOT burn coal. AtheistCrusader Aug 2013 #54

Coal power is on the decline in the US IDemo Aug 2013 #75

Will A $5,000 Price Cut Recharge Volt Sales? Sort Of. PoliticAverse Aug 2013 #18

I looked at one a couple of years ago and was interested in it-- drove nicely NoMoreWarNow Aug 2013 #21

CONGRATS TO CHEVROLET! James48 Aug 2013 #27

Numbers wercal Aug 2013 #32

The tax credit should roll over roody Aug 2013 #35

No it doesn't wercal Aug 2013 #38

My stats James48 Aug 2013 #45

Gasoline wercal Aug 2013 #55

I never served in the army, but I agree with many of your points. (Go, Army!) branford Aug 2013 #66

Palestinains Celebrated 9/11??? happyslug Aug 2013 #78

I hate to say this, but given your situation, the Cruze Eco may be the better choice happyslug Aug 2013 #73

I admire your resolve and thank you for your service AllyCat Aug 2013 #79

The verb used is 'should'. roody Aug 2013 #69

Wow - Talk about semantics wercal Aug 2013 #70

"People, the credit is Refundable" - Actually it is _NOT_ a 'refundable' credit. PoliticAverse Aug 2013 #76

Still $15,000 too much. closeupready Aug 2013 #31

Rich Democrat problems and solutions. Safetykitten Aug 2013 #34

The Leaf is still cheaper Kelvin Mace Aug 2013 #36

The Volt is the best of both worlds imo Schema Thing Aug 2013 #40

100 mpg? wercal Aug 2013 #44

I say should best for me. Kelvin Mace Aug 2013 #50

Sure, new cars are expensive Lugal Zaggesi Aug 2013 #41

When the oil's gone we'll still have fast cars and boats DainBramaged Aug 2013 #58

I really want one of these shenmue Aug 2013 #65

If they had one around $16000 Rosa Luxemburg Aug 2013 #74