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In reply to the discussion: Al Qaeda Has 'Developed Liquid Explosives Which Blow Up When Dry' Prompting US Evacuation [View all]yellowcanine
(36,752 posts)110. A big "IF", as it turns out... You mean just as the "underwear bomb" and the "shoe bomb" did?
British bomb expert Sidney Alford confirmed that the new method was possible using easily available chemicals, but pulling it off would be tricky as the soaking process would dilute the explosive.
He said: The clothes act as a diluent and reduce the power of the explosives.
The new explosive has reportedly been developed by the notorious bomb-maker Ibrahim al-Asiri of Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, who made the device used by convicted underwear bomber Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab in his attempt to blow up a plane on Christmas Day in 2009.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2385344/Al-Qaeda-developed-liquid-explosives-blow-dry-prompting-US-evacuation-Yemen.html#ixzz2bJBF7tk7
Ok, let's see how that one worked out.....
Abdulmutallab spent about 20 minutes in the bathroom as the flight approached Detroit, and then covered himself with a blanket after returning to his seat. Other passengers then heard popping noises, smelled a foul odor, and some saw Abdulmutallabs trouser leg and the wall of the plane on fire. Fellow passenger Jasper Schuringa, a Dutch film director, jumped on Abdulmutallab and subdued him as flight attendants used fire extinguishers to douse the flames. Abdulmutallab was taken toward the front of the airplane cabin, was seen to have lost his trousers due to the fire, and had burns on his legs. When asked by a flight attendant what he had in his pocket, he replied: Explosive device. The device consisted of a six-inch (15-cm) packet which was sewn into his underwear containing the explosive powder PETN, which became a plastic explosive when mixed with the high explosive triacetone triperoxide (TATP) (the same two explosives that were used by Richard Reid in 2001), and a syringe containing liquid acid. Abdulmutallab created the explosive by mixing PETN with TATP and other ingredients.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umar_Farouk_Abdulmutallab
I refuse to fear people who spend their time figuring out new ways to set their pants on fire on airplanes.
"The only thing we have to fear is fear itself." FDR 1933
He said: The clothes act as a diluent and reduce the power of the explosives.
The new explosive has reportedly been developed by the notorious bomb-maker Ibrahim al-Asiri of Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, who made the device used by convicted underwear bomber Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab in his attempt to blow up a plane on Christmas Day in 2009.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2385344/Al-Qaeda-developed-liquid-explosives-blow-dry-prompting-US-evacuation-Yemen.html#ixzz2bJBF7tk7
Ok, let's see how that one worked out.....
Abdulmutallab spent about 20 minutes in the bathroom as the flight approached Detroit, and then covered himself with a blanket after returning to his seat. Other passengers then heard popping noises, smelled a foul odor, and some saw Abdulmutallabs trouser leg and the wall of the plane on fire. Fellow passenger Jasper Schuringa, a Dutch film director, jumped on Abdulmutallab and subdued him as flight attendants used fire extinguishers to douse the flames. Abdulmutallab was taken toward the front of the airplane cabin, was seen to have lost his trousers due to the fire, and had burns on his legs. When asked by a flight attendant what he had in his pocket, he replied: Explosive device. The device consisted of a six-inch (15-cm) packet which was sewn into his underwear containing the explosive powder PETN, which became a plastic explosive when mixed with the high explosive triacetone triperoxide (TATP) (the same two explosives that were used by Richard Reid in 2001), and a syringe containing liquid acid. Abdulmutallab created the explosive by mixing PETN with TATP and other ingredients.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umar_Farouk_Abdulmutallab
I refuse to fear people who spend their time figuring out new ways to set their pants on fire on airplanes.
"The only thing we have to fear is fear itself." FDR 1933
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Al Qaeda Has 'Developed Liquid Explosives Which Blow Up When Dry' Prompting US Evacuation [View all]
big_dog
Aug 2013
OP
So now TSA agents can't just 'pat down' young children, they can strip search them. nt
TheBlackAdder
Aug 2013
#20
It's more the case that I kind of resent the implication that brown people are too
Flatulo
Aug 2013
#88
Imagine this level of creativity and effort turned toward productive ends
BeyondGeography
Aug 2013
#8
This came up in 2010. Ordinary clothes cannot absorb enough explosive to blowup.
leveymg
Aug 2013
#66
We should submit meekly to our government's system of surveillance and monitoring.
ronnie624
Aug 2013
#81
Didn't we do that with iodine and ammonia in 9th grade science class? Next thing
jtuck004
Aug 2013
#13
There have to be tens of thousands of people with this kind of knowledge, most of it gained
jtuck004
Aug 2013
#68
sooooo glad I was not drinking anything when I started reading this, or you would owe me a keyboard
niyad
Aug 2013
#56
Wait a minute, so that means you don't allow anyone with wet clothes on the plane?
Baitball Blogger
Aug 2013
#29
My guess is that they have some sort of embeded "popable" bag in one's clothes.
cascadiance
Aug 2013
#44
I think everybody waiting at the same gate as the terrorist would sniff it out.
Common Sense Party
Aug 2013
#54
You mean the TSA workers wouldn't notice someone dripping wet and smelling like a bomb?
jmowreader
Aug 2013
#38
I see a new industry--fly fashions. DHS-approved, DHS-required clothing to be worn in flight.
valerief
Aug 2013
#48
Well, I for one am sure glad we've addressed the root causes of terrorism rather than
AtheistCrusader
Aug 2013
#57
A big "IF", as it turns out... You mean just as the "underwear bomb" and the "shoe bomb" did?
yellowcanine
Aug 2013
#110
If you worry about a guy bringing down a plane by setting his pants on fire - yes.
yellowcanine
Aug 2013
#113
Not trying to "shrink you," whatever that means. No need to take it personally.
yellowcanine
Aug 2013
#115
I have no real problem with just speculation but I do when it leads to statements like this:
yellowcanine
Aug 2013
#118
Or maybe it was an electrical fire which went undiscovered behind a wall.
yellowcanine
Aug 2013
#116
It's amazing how a terrorist organization that's supposed to be on the run and severly crippled
AppleBottom
Aug 2013
#107
"highly advanced explosive that even our Zillion dollar, multi-national companies haven't even
yellowcanine
Aug 2013
#109