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yellowcanine

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110. A big "IF", as it turns out... You mean just as the "underwear bomb" and the "shoe bomb" did?
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 02:09 PM
Aug 2013
British bomb expert Sidney Alford confirmed that the new method was possible using easily available chemicals, but pulling it off would be tricky as the soaking process would dilute the explosive.

He said: ‘The clothes act as a diluent and reduce the power of the explosives.’

The new explosive has reportedly been developed by the notorious bomb-maker Ibrahim al-Asiri of Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, who made the device used by convicted ‘underwear bomber’ Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab in his attempt to blow up a plane on Christmas Day in 2009.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2385344/Al-Qaeda-developed-liquid-explosives-blow-dry-prompting-US-evacuation-Yemen.html#ixzz2bJBF7tk7

Ok, let's see how that one worked out.....

Abdulmutallab spent about 20 minutes in the bathroom as the flight approached Detroit, and then covered himself with a blanket after returning to his seat. Other passengers then heard popping noises, smelled a foul odor, and some saw Abdulmutallab’s trouser leg and the wall of the plane on fire. Fellow passenger Jasper Schuringa, a Dutch film director, jumped on Abdulmutallab and subdued him as flight attendants used fire extinguishers to douse the flames. Abdulmutallab was taken toward the front of the airplane cabin, was seen to have lost his trousers due to the fire, and had burns on his legs. When asked by a flight attendant what he had in his pocket, he replied: “Explosive device.” The device consisted of a six-inch (15-cm) packet which was sewn into his underwear containing the explosive powder PETN, which became a plastic explosive when mixed with the high explosive triacetone triperoxide (TATP) (the same two explosives that were used by Richard Reid in 2001), and a syringe containing liquid acid. Abdulmutallab created the explosive by mixing PETN with TATP and other ingredients.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umar_Farouk_Abdulmutallab


I refuse to fear people who spend their time figuring out new ways to set their pants on fire on airplanes.
"The only thing we have to fear is fear itself." FDR 1933

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So let me guess. uberblonde Aug 2013 #1
Good God my first thought! nt snappyturtle Aug 2013 #14
So now TSA agents can't just 'pat down' young children, they can strip search them. nt TheBlackAdder Aug 2013 #20
Damn Lonr Aug 2013 #21
That was my first thought also. nt Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #47
It sounds like they are working on it. RC Aug 2013 #55
GMTA Jamastiene Aug 2013 #78
That's silly. The bombs sewed under the skin would still get through. Kablooie Aug 2013 #82
Now that is a scary thought. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #2
Heh agent46 Aug 2013 #3
More like 'Given to them" to keep the conflict going, amping it up. nt TheBlackAdder Aug 2013 #19
Yes, I'm sure that's it. Flatulo Aug 2013 #24
So, you trust the defense contracting community? TheBlackAdder Aug 2013 #34
It's more the case that I kind of resent the implication that brown people are too Flatulo Aug 2013 #88
Hey, how you been? jberryhill Aug 2013 #37
Hi John, I'm well - how about yourself? Flatulo Aug 2013 #74
Never too late to start, I guess jberryhill Aug 2013 #75
Wow, all that scientific effort just to buzzkill Greenwald. phleshdef Aug 2013 #4
Boo!! hatrack Aug 2013 #5
Great, we'll have to fly naked now. Old and In the Way Aug 2013 #6
No, your clothes will be shredded as you watch, kentauros Aug 2013 #97
When the TSA finds out about this we'll all be flying nekkid tularetom Aug 2013 #7
Or we will get Airline furnished hospital gowns! VanillaRhapsody Aug 2013 #39
Not naked daleo Aug 2013 #41
Was thinking WET T-SHIRT CONTEST!!! Lithos Aug 2013 #102
Imagine this level of creativity and effort turned toward productive ends BeyondGeography Aug 2013 #8
Will there be a "next century" Control-Z Aug 2013 #15
that is the Big Question wordpix Aug 2013 #108
+1 Drum Aug 2013 #43
Has anyone interviewed chemist and/or explosives experts on this? LongTomH Aug 2013 #9
I would search and research but with those keywords I'll pass.... think Aug 2013 #17
LOL... +1.... nt Blasphemer Aug 2013 #35
The first liquid explosive thing was BS Hydra Aug 2013 #32
This came up in 2010. Ordinary clothes cannot absorb enough explosive to blowup. leveymg Aug 2013 #66
I wouldnt be so fast to channel Lord Kelvin if I were you leveymg. cstanleytech Aug 2013 #73
We should submit meekly to our government's system of surveillance and monitoring. ronnie624 Aug 2013 #81
Mmm you do realize I was merely refering to the science aspect cstanleytech Aug 2013 #84
Nitrocellulose. nt cstanleytech Aug 2013 #71
That was my first thought, but that's not a "liquid explosive" Fumesucker Aug 2013 #77
Wonder if an air tight aluminium briefcase would work. nt cstanleytech Aug 2013 #79
this isn't from the Onion? niyad Aug 2013 #10
LOL. What's next? Spontaneous combustion? PSPS Aug 2013 #11
You mean they're dressed in guncotton? Scootaloo Aug 2013 #12
no one ever said sabbat hunter Aug 2013 #119
Smarter than this bullshit Scootaloo Aug 2013 #120
Didn't we do that with iodine and ammonia in 9th grade science class? Next thing jtuck004 Aug 2013 #13
I was thinking Nitrogen Triiodide too. Daemonaquila Aug 2013 #65
There have to be tens of thousands of people with this kind of knowledge, most of it gained jtuck004 Aug 2013 #68
Will politico give this a pants-on-fire rating? mindwalker_i Aug 2013 #16
they don't have the sharks with laser beam eyes yet? VanillaRhapsody Aug 2013 #42
I imagine that would be difficult to get through t x-ray... mindwalker_i Aug 2013 #46
Nah, they slacked off. Eleanors38 Aug 2013 #52
I guess we haven't responded adequately to the terrorist alerts.... snappyturtle Aug 2013 #18
We will have to wear paper suits when we fly. Ilsa Aug 2013 #22
I read it in the Tory Mail, so it must be true! n/t backscatter712 Aug 2013 #23
Now that Al Qaeda knows that the NSA is listening to everything Lugal Zaggesi Aug 2013 #25
I think this post is the best thng I've seen in a good long while, Volaris Aug 2013 #30
Thanks Lugal Zaggesi Aug 2013 #50
lol we should make a list.. Volaris Aug 2013 #67
I recently saw a 7 part interview with Chris Hedges on theREALnews Lugal Zaggesi Aug 2013 #70
Yeah, I watched that 7-part segment also, Volaris Aug 2013 #83
sooooo glad I was not drinking anything when I started reading this, or you would owe me a keyboard niyad Aug 2013 #56
You are now my god. WilliamPitt Aug 2013 #92
Yes, we can be played too. bemildred Aug 2013 #95
lol Love it. ctsnowman Aug 2013 #96
Meh. DeSwiss Aug 2013 #26
Meh, on your Ignorant anti-President Obama Propaganda Cha Aug 2013 #33
International travel may be a thing of the past, soon. tofuandbeer Aug 2013 #27
Another serving of fear.... NRaleighLiberal Aug 2013 #28
Scared yet? blkmusclmachine Aug 2013 #60
shakin in my boots - got all my duct tape ready to go NRaleighLiberal Aug 2013 #61
Wait a minute, so that means you don't allow anyone with wet clothes on the plane? Baitball Blogger Aug 2013 #29
My guess is that they have some sort of embeded "popable" bag in one's clothes. cascadiance Aug 2013 #44
A closer reading... truth2power Aug 2013 #49
If these terrorists have been discovered I suggest they get arrested Vinnie From Indy Aug 2013 #31
Can't they train dogs to sniff this stuff out? Just a thought. YOHABLO Aug 2013 #36
I think everybody waiting at the same gate as the terrorist would sniff it out. Common Sense Party Aug 2013 #54
You mean the TSA workers wouldn't notice someone dripping wet and smelling like a bomb? jmowreader Aug 2013 #38
Terra! Terra! Terra! Th1onein Aug 2013 #40
The US Government boy cried wolf too many times with "terra!" Nanjing to Seoul Aug 2013 #45
Terra threat level BROWN, blkmusclmachine Aug 2013 #59
Terra threat level BROWN, for Some ol' bullshit! :) Nanjing to Seoul Aug 2013 #85
I see a new industry--fly fashions. DHS-approved, DHS-required clothing to be worn in flight. valerief Aug 2013 #48
I think this plot has been employed before . . . another_liberal Aug 2013 #51
Right. And there would be no chemical smell at all. Common Sense Party Aug 2013 #53
Well, I for one am sure glad we've addressed the root causes of terrorism rather than AtheistCrusader Aug 2013 #57
The TSA's Wet Dream. blkmusclmachine Aug 2013 #58
Nothing new... cactusfractal Aug 2013 #62
This is why the Israelis search passangers for for deceptive behaviors, not MsPithy Aug 2013 #63
Al Qaeda saw this on Mythbusters. OnyxCollie Aug 2013 #64
LMAO! I think you you are onto something! adirondacker Aug 2013 #69
Once all TV and video is digital Lugal Zaggesi Aug 2013 #72
One must be forever cautious... adirondacker Aug 2013 #76
Sniff sniff... PopeOxycontinI Aug 2013 #80
So let me get this straight. TM99 Aug 2013 #86
If it can bring down a plane leftynyc Aug 2013 #87
So they don't announce TM99 Aug 2013 #93
Huh? leftynyc Aug 2013 #98
You attempted to make the point TM99 Aug 2013 #99
I actually made that point about leftynyc Aug 2013 #100
I love New York City TM99 Aug 2013 #103
I love NYC also leftynyc Aug 2013 #104
I don't blow off terrorism. TM99 Aug 2013 #106
A big "IF", as it turns out... You mean just as the "underwear bomb" and the "shoe bomb" did? yellowcanine Aug 2013 #110
Does it really sound like I live in fear? leftynyc Aug 2013 #111
If you worry about a guy bringing down a plane by setting his pants on fire - yes. yellowcanine Aug 2013 #113
I flew to Greece just last month leftynyc Aug 2013 #114
Not trying to "shrink you," whatever that means. No need to take it personally. yellowcanine Aug 2013 #115
If I actually spent a lot of time leftynyc Aug 2013 #117
I have no real problem with just speculation but I do when it leads to statements like this: yellowcanine Aug 2013 #118
Then I wasn't referring to you leftynyc Aug 2013 #122
if you wash your clothes in this stuff, don't put them in the dryer. olddad56 Aug 2013 #90
will also start fires...Nairobi airport..nt quadrature Aug 2013 #89
Or maybe it was an electrical fire which went undiscovered behind a wall. yellowcanine Aug 2013 #116
And here's the recipe for that explosive (link): DetlefK Aug 2013 #91
And they talk about the "hair on fire" crowd here. bemildred Aug 2013 #94
all those breast implants are gonna be felt up....nt Evasporque Aug 2013 #101
Clothing that can be ignited when dry, but not when wet? Orsino Aug 2013 #105
It's amazing how a terrorist organization that's supposed to be on the run and severly crippled AppleBottom Aug 2013 #107
"highly advanced explosive that even our Zillion dollar, multi-national companies haven't even yellowcanine Aug 2013 #109
Damn straight! Maedhros Aug 2013 #112
The source is from the Daily Mail jasond54231 Aug 2013 #121
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