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In reply to the discussion: Civil Rights Icon John Lewis: Snowden’s Actions In Line With Gandhi, Thoreau [View all]MADem
(135,425 posts)84. You do know the guy bullshitted, didn't you?
He later admitted everything he did. He also stole credit cards.
No one forced him to plead guilty--he did it because he mouthed off to another "hacker" who had been turned by the FBI. He was CAUGHT by "one of his own."
See, that's the problem with this "Anonymous" nonsense ....with the childish little face masks made by Warner Brothers, and the stupid electronic voice, and all the dramatic "Expect Us" silliness. Half of the people in that outfit are INFORMANTS.
While he billed himself as fighting for an anarchist cause, in reality, Jeremy Hammond caused personal and financial chaos for individuals whose identities and money he took and for companies whose businesses he decided he didnt like," Manhattan U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara said in a statement. "He was nothing more than a repeat offender cybercriminal who thought that because of his computer savvy he was above the law that binds and protects all of us."
During the Stratfor attack, Hammond and other hackers, who were part of an offshoot of Anonymous known as Antisec, found e-mail correspondence, financial and personal data -- including 60,000 credit card numbers -- belonging to 860,000 clients.....
Before his arrest last year, Hammond, of Chicago, served two years in prison for hacking a conservative political group's server and stealing 5,000 credit card numbers.
He has spent 15 months in prison on the Stratfor charges. During that time, he claims he has been held in solitary confinement and denied visits and phone calls with family and friends.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/28/jeremy-hammond-anonymous-hacker-guilty-stratfor_n_3347215.html
During the Stratfor attack, Hammond and other hackers, who were part of an offshoot of Anonymous known as Antisec, found e-mail correspondence, financial and personal data -- including 60,000 credit card numbers -- belonging to 860,000 clients.....
Before his arrest last year, Hammond, of Chicago, served two years in prison for hacking a conservative political group's server and stealing 5,000 credit card numbers.
He has spent 15 months in prison on the Stratfor charges. During that time, he claims he has been held in solitary confinement and denied visits and phone calls with family and friends.
How would you like it if he hacked a "liberal political group's server" and stole 5000 credit card numbers--maybe YOURS? Would you still call this clown a hero?
But yeah, he's some kind of "hero" freedom fighter. He's not. He is a thief.
People get put in solitary for being assholes in the general population, not for "political reasons."
He's got all the time in the world to opine, now--he'll just have to learn to do it with a pencil and paper.
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Civil Rights Icon John Lewis: Snowden’s Actions In Line With Gandhi, Thoreau [View all]
last1standing
Aug 2013
OP
I read it--in fact, I went all the way back to the source document, the Guardian.
MADem
Aug 2013
#12
Can I write you down as supporting kangaroo court, torture and life in prison then
Hydra
Aug 2013
#43
"Racially pure"? In a thread about John Lewis praising Snowden, you're going to imply that Snowden
muriel_volestrangler
Aug 2013
#39
No kidding! He could have traveled a much easier path. Instead, he chose to become one of the rare
deurbano
Aug 2013
#15
you are aware that your statement can just as easily be turned on snowdens supporters
Bodhi BloodWave
Aug 2013
#40
He didn't say that. That's just you conjuring that talking point out of thin air.
backscatter712
Aug 2013
#52
So, basically, you're deciding what "pay the price means" and/or what John Lewis meant?
Dawgs
Aug 2013
#127
Edward Snowden is a modern day Paul Revere with a thumb drive full of news that Tyranny is coming!
usGovOwesUs3Trillion
Aug 2013
#114
Thank you. Every civil rights leader I am aware of paid the consequences of their actions either
kelliekat44
Aug 2013
#119
Ghandi used prison for PR purposes. Prison and hunger strikes were how he expressed dissent.
last1standing
Aug 2013
#24
Then you tell me what you want beyond a vague "come home and face the consequences."
last1standing
Aug 2013
#48
How much prison time did Thoreau serve for his act of conscience? I'll bet Snowden would be
deurbano
Aug 2013
#73
So, yes... Thoreau spent only one night in jail, and got a book deal out of it!
deurbano
Aug 2013
#87
I'm sorry... you're right, I made a mistake and responded to something you didn't say...
deurbano
Aug 2013
#102
Sure you did--you bet against Ghandi because the wrong guys assassinated him--just upthread. nt
MADem
Aug 2013
#64
I have yet to see any Snowden supporter put him on par with Gandhi, Thoreau or Lewis.
former9thward
Aug 2013
#70
So lets see, John Lewis, Jimmy Carter, Daniel Ellsberg, Juan Cole, Naomi Klein
riderinthestorm
Aug 2013
#85