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Helen Borg

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25. What puzzles me is the following...

Fri Aug 9, 2013, 04:11 AM

Aug 2013

Given the immense resources US agencies have put into creating this surveillance network, is it that inconceivable that they would also set up cover companies that offer encrypted email services just for the purpose of attracting the kind of customers that would use them (you know, the kind of people that have "something to hide&quot ? I don't know if Lavabit was such a company, but I don't see how anyone can trust such services in the future.

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Snowden�s e-mail provider is closing, cannot legally say why [View all] David Krout Aug 2013 OP

I Physically Live In The US - However, I No Longer Live In America - America Is Dead cantbeserious Aug 2013 #1

So many are freely expressing your sentiment now. avaistheone1 Aug 2013 #20

Yes, the world has come to an end... time to go curl up in a ball and shrivel up DontTreadOnMe Aug 2013 #29

Expressing criticism of our government's policies ronnie624 Aug 2013 #45

Things are getting worse not better and we have dip wads running around AppleBottom Aug 2013 #31

Watch what you say and do. Remember, your crime is judeged in the mind of the watchers, not yours. jtuck004 Aug 2013 #2

K&R DeSwiss Aug 2013 #3

Collectively, we are indeed, insane. n/t ronnie624 Aug 2013 #46

In my view, the administration is in violation of it's oath to protect and defend the Constitution grahamhgreen Aug 2013 #4

The administration and most of Congress. woo me with science Aug 2013 #9

In this matter obxhead Aug 2013 #11

And Obama is christx30 Aug 2013 #34

i may have to clear my ignore list to see how this gets spun frylock Aug 2013 #5

My money is on something along the lines of "Paulbot! Paulbot!". /nt Marr Aug 2013 #13

At least these incidents are creating more plaintiffs Ms. Toad Aug 2013 #6

Went to the owners FB page: Raine1967 Aug 2013 #7

Maybe it was an agents-at-the-door situation, ready to confiscate his servers. nt wtmusic Aug 2013 #10

I'm not inclined to believe that theory here is why: Raine1967 Aug 2013 #12

True, it's odd that he wouldn't alert his customers in advance. wtmusic Aug 2013 #17

He apparentlly made a good payday from the business. MADem Aug 2013 #58

Near as I can tell, he was issued a National Security Letter. MADem Aug 2013 #19

Yeah liars they're terrible... AppleBottom Aug 2013 #23

The guy didn't tell the truth to his customers, which is why his customers are furious. MADem Aug 2013 #24

Yeah I totally get it lying to your customers is much worse than AppleBottom Aug 2013 #32

You're the only one playing the "comparison" game here. I'm not going along with you. MADem Aug 2013 #36

Comparisons are important in establishing intellectual consistancy and not looking like a hypocrite. AppleBottom Aug 2013 #39

But when they're bogus comparisons, all they do is obfuscate the issues. nt MADem Aug 2013 #42

What bogus about calling a liar a liar? AppleBottom Aug 2013 #43

You are mixing apples and oranges. MADem Aug 2013 #44

LOL!!! Sorry but yeah I think that someone responsible for the welfare of the nation AppleBottom Aug 2013 #47

Yeah, he has an obligation to tell you everything, just because....! MADem Aug 2013 #48

No, he doesn't have to tell me everything, but matters of Constitutional violations against EVERY AppleBottom Aug 2013 #49

And you know there are "matters of Constitutional violations..." how? MADem Aug 2013 #51

I know that they're violations because the truth stands on it's own. AppleBottom Aug 2013 #52

What truth? MADem Aug 2013 #55

Hey if you need somebody to tell you the difference between right an wrong and to define the state AppleBottom Aug 2013 #56

You are telling me what you believe, not what you know. MADem Aug 2013 #59

You see you're projecting again.... AppleBottom Aug 2013 #60

No, I'm not--unless you're Eddie, posting from Moscow, you "know" nada. nt MADem Aug 2013 #61

You must be able to follow the news with your internet connection right?... AppleBottom Aug 2013 #62

I can't read minds, though--and neither can you. nt MADem Aug 2013 #63

Actually, I can just like I know that you habitually have to have the last word in AppleBottom Aug 2013 #64

you know, i've been thinking Bodhi BloodWave Aug 2013 #53

It's certainly suggestive of that. Why ask for what you already have? nt MADem Aug 2013 #54

NO, because the NSA has been engaging in their activities by using secret court orders to force AppleBottom Aug 2013 #57

One of the things Turbineguy Aug 2013 #8

Sounds like they got a National Security Letter. nt OnyxCollie Aug 2013 #14

Aye. Those things need to be abolished or at the very least have an expiration date of no more than cstanleytech Aug 2013 #15

Or start getting defied. (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2013 #40

Interesting. (no text) Quantess Aug 2013 #16

Lavabit's Wiki page ... quadrature Aug 2013 #18

A second secure email provider has shut down preemptively starroute Aug 2013 #21

When are we going to stand up and say enough is enough. AppleBottom Aug 2013 #22

Actually, it is the U.S. Justice department Coyotl Aug 2013 #28

Who does the A.G. work for? Who sets the agenda? AppleBottom Aug 2013 #33

Who can be impeached for meddling in DoJ business? That would be Obama! Coyotl Aug 2013 #38

So Shrub never set the tone and directions for his A.G. ?! AppleBottom Aug 2013 #41

Good questions. Coyotl Aug 2013 #50

the buck stops ummm... somewhere over there >>>>>> frylock Aug 2013 #35

What puzzles me is the following... Helen Borg Aug 2013 #25

This story is actually quite telling on its' own. nt silvershadow Aug 2013 #26

brave move, sacrificing ten years of work for principle! best of luck on next venture. Civilization2 Aug 2013 #27

I bet they got a warrant for Snowy's account snooper2 Aug 2013 #30

I suspect you're correct. Your advice is spot on. nt MADem Aug 2013 #37