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51. I believe the subsidies help with the premiums, not with the deductibles.

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Another Obamacare delay: Out-of-pocket caps waived for a year [View all] Freddie Stubbs Aug 2013 OP

Medicare for All, including dental and optical. Everything else is just window dressing. Scuba Aug 2013 #1

This is what I fear the most Harmony Blue Aug 2013 #19

Perhaps that was the idea. Scuba Aug 2013 #27

You are actively assisting Republicans in their goal. nt tridim Aug 2013 #40

Can you explain that, please? Scuba Aug 2013 #49

Yes, crim son Aug 2013 #58

It was an observation. AtheistCrusader Aug 2013 #68

If? We have a couple generations who have been awash in the idea that the jtuck004 Aug 2013 #102

Never mind government health care works jut fine in the rest of the world. RC Aug 2013 #46

Hear hear! BlueManFan Aug 2013 #62

+ infinity! n/t Lugnut Aug 2013 #63

''Everything else is just window dressing.'' DeSwiss Aug 2013 #69

Only if "window dressing" equals evil for profit Half-Century Man Aug 2013 #80

How would that effect the solvency of Medicare? Freddie Stubbs Aug 2013 #110

Tax the wealthy a little more ... Scuba Aug 2013 #111

Tax the super wealthy a LOT more wordpix Aug 2013 #116

Good idea, but will never happen in the USA unless the "peasants" revolt. ConcernedCanuk Aug 2013 #124

+1000, O-care is proving to be R-care; R for Repug and Repeal wordpix Aug 2013 #115

+1000 burnsei sensei Aug 2013 #134

"businesses need more time to figure out how to comply" Eric J in MN Aug 2013 #2

Thats exactly what I thought. n/t winterpark Aug 2013 #17

I'd give them until the end of the year atreides1 Aug 2013 #31

Don't be holding your breath. RC Aug 2013 #48

They can change their own policies in the time it takes lightning to flash, but Jackpine Radical Aug 2013 #41

More likely time to figure how to dump their insurance plans zeemike Aug 2013 #74

Did the population get time to... Half-Century Man Aug 2013 #85

I wouldn't give them the time. christx30 Aug 2013 #113

I guess three Duckhunter935 Aug 2013 #3

Is it my imagination or does enlightenment Aug 2013 #4

I couldn't agree more. Ed Suspicious Aug 2013 #7

You are quite correct. another_liberal Aug 2013 #10

Don''t worry the chaos will worsen Harmony Blue Aug 2013 #16

100% pure FUD. Heartless, cold, disgusting. nt tridim Aug 2013 #39

That's how it looks to me, too. City Lights Aug 2013 #13

The edited version does not make sense, either Kolesar Aug 2013 #26

nah it`s not your imagination madrchsod Aug 2013 #28

It's definitely not your imagination Yo_Mama Aug 2013 #42

That's Obama in a nutshell. Protect the 1% at all costs. forestpath Aug 2013 #57

You noticed. They keep finding new ways to screw us. chimpymustgo Aug 2013 #131

bad products do not elicit burnsei sensei Aug 2013 #135

I'm shocked, shocked I tell you hobbit709 Aug 2013 #5

Yep... awoke_in_2003 Aug 2013 #109

Need more time to figure out how to comply? djean111 Aug 2013 #6

Premiums, co-pays and deductibles are ALREADY going down in states that have implemented the ACA tridim Aug 2013 #9

Oh, yes, going down for now. djean111 Aug 2013 #15

And for those of us in red states, our premiums are going UPPPPPP.... AllyCat Aug 2013 #66

Actually I believe them that they need more time but cstanleytech Aug 2013 #20

Universal health care should have been the goal Harmony Blue Aug 2013 #8

30 million newly insured poor people been snookered? tridim Aug 2013 #11

This will be stripped away as well Harmony Blue Aug 2013 #12

No, it will not. Period. tridim Aug 2013 #21

The Obama Administration obviously can do as they wish Harmony Blue Aug 2013 #29

The HHS/ACA website is a good use of time Kolesar Aug 2013 #33

It's a delay, not non-enforcement. Relax. tridim Aug 2013 #35

The fact the Obama administration seems to feel uncompelled to implement the law they passed? Chan790 Aug 2013 #114

uh, the waivers? Doctor_J Aug 2013 #142

Making stuff up. former9thward Aug 2013 #53

You are 100% wrong. tridim Aug 2013 #89

If a person has no "disposable income", then unless the government covers 100% of the cost hughee99 Aug 2013 #139

These people have a mandate to buy insurance from the same old crooks dflprincess Aug 2013 #128

People tried. They threw them in jail. RC Aug 2013 #72

I didn't think it could get any worse than it already was Cal Carpenter Aug 2013 #14

I work for an insurance company.. tridim Aug 2013 #24

Oh, for pity's sake. enlightenment Aug 2013 #45

Do you want 30 million poor people to have insurance, or not? tridim Aug 2013 #84

I would like 50 million people to have access to enlightenment Aug 2013 #91

So would I. What's your point? tridim Aug 2013 #94

Conversations like this enlightenment Aug 2013 #105

Do you want a unicorn? Chan790 Aug 2013 #117

Which would you rather have. zeemike Aug 2013 #77

If I were running the company, I would take my share of the 30 million new customers... tridim Aug 2013 #82

Sorry but what it sounds like to me is. zeemike Aug 2013 #98

Make up your mind--is the law an abomination or is the problem geek tragedy Aug 2013 #143

No surprise here Puzzledtraveller Aug 2013 #18

I am not as cynical as some....... Swede Atlanta Aug 2013 #22

I would have bought coverage with deductibles > $2000/year Kolesar Aug 2013 #23

That's nice and I'm happy for you. Jackpine Radical Aug 2013 #44

Subsidies! Kolesar Aug 2013 #47

I believe the subsidies help with the premiums, not with the deductibles. Jackpine Radical Aug 2013 #51

What's the deductible for Medicaid patients? Kolesar Aug 2013 #52

I don't know, but even if there is none, Jackpine Radical Aug 2013 #56

slightly above that line gets one a 91% subsidy. Kolesar Aug 2013 #61

Sure, but what's the deductible? Jackpine Radical Aug 2013 #120

Look it up at the ACA website ... eom Kolesar Aug 2013 #129

I did. That was a rhetorical question. Jackpine Radical Aug 2013 #132

Then buy the silver plan or the gold plan...eom Kolesar Aug 2013 #141

A lien on personal property is what covers Medicaid expenses DJ13 Aug 2013 #65

so how is care "affordable" under the PPACA, if you can't afford to get sick? nt antigop Aug 2013 #25

Good point Harmony Blue Aug 2013 #32

Do you want the ACA repealed? tridim Aug 2013 #38

Insurance may be affordable. djean111 Aug 2013 #34

I changed the title -- PPACA---> AFFORDABLE CARE ACT. antigop Aug 2013 #36

So, repeal the ACA? tridim Aug 2013 #37

No, stimulation Kolesar Aug 2013 #54

I'll take that as a yes. tridim Aug 2013 #87

Huh? Kolesar Aug 2013 #95

Stop with the Sophie's choice. djean111 Aug 2013 #60

I'll take that as a yes. tridim Aug 2013 #86

oh noes!!!!!! djean111 Aug 2013 #100

Good question. historylovr Aug 2013 #59

+10 RC Aug 2013 #75

Silly DUer, INSURANCE will be affordable. Medical care, not so much. kestrel91316 Aug 2013 #73

for many the premiums will be unaffordable. Older people can be charged three times what a younger antigop Aug 2013 #88

I'm one of those "older people", so I am well aware. I qualify for a huge subsidy with my kestrel91316 Aug 2013 #107

can you get a teaching job or something -- something with healthcare? antigop Aug 2013 #108

A more relevant question that takes in yours is: burnsei sensei Aug 2013 #136

that's the problem I've had with the PPACA from day one. Medical bankruptcies will continue. antigop Aug 2013 #138

whittling it down, little by little. nt Javaman Aug 2013 #30

"businesses need more time to figure out how to comply with the new rules" - translation: Triana Aug 2013 #43

How so? Kolesar Aug 2013 #50

I'm sure they'll think of something. n/t Triana Aug 2013 #78

So WHO does Obama "care" about again? Because it certainly doesn't seem to be forestpath Aug 2013 #55

Here Kolesar Aug 2013 #64

Right-wing "news" sources cilla4progress Aug 2013 #67

Jesus Jumping Christ it's in the FUCKING FEDERAL REGISTER. Dreamer Tatum Aug 2013 #92

... cilla4progress Aug 2013 #119

NYT yesterday Skeeter Barnes Aug 2013 #97

Thanks. cilla4progress Aug 2013 #104

So, the question again...when do you think they will delay the refusal of pre-existing conditions? Safetykitten Aug 2013 #70

So now medical bankruptcies caused by lack of out-of-pocket kestrel91316 Aug 2013 #71

That's not what the article said Kolesar Aug 2013 #79

It seems to me they are trying to repeal all parts of the law that help THE PEOPLE loudsue Aug 2013 #76

"businesses" = corporate Obama and US government controllers. Is it funny yet? L0oniX Aug 2013 #81

They way things are going, I am beginning to wonder if Obama might repeal obamacare himself n2doc Aug 2013 #83

When do we get the affordable part? pediatricmedic Aug 2013 #90

wtf? "Businesses need more time...?" mike_c Aug 2013 #93

This Is Political Malpractice, Sir The Magistrate Aug 2013 #96

I agree Harmony Blue Aug 2013 #123

Since this part is delayed, so should the mandate be delayed TheProgressive Aug 2013 #99

Why am I not surprised area51 Aug 2013 #101

Sounds to me that they are pushing hard to delay implementation into 2016 in order to WCGreen Aug 2013 #103

wow the republicans can just sit back, obama will end up getting rid of obama care all by himself leftyohiolib Aug 2013 #106

It's really seeming like what he wanted was a sincere-looking effort and a failure... Chan790 Aug 2013 #118

...but the insurance companies have to return money of they make over 20% profit... Sancho Aug 2013 #112

A question for the ACA enthusiasts Jim Lane Aug 2013 #121

LOL Skittles Aug 2013 #122

starting to think Obamacare is a cruel joke /nt limpyhobbler Aug 2013 #125

what is left.. to rollback, other than the individual mandate? ..nt quadrature Aug 2013 #126

This is misleading in that a $2k deductible is the cap for an individual "silver" plan dflprincess Aug 2013 #127

Thanks for noting that...eom Kolesar Aug 2013 #130

As of this week, burnsei sensei Aug 2013 #133

It will not. You and I were sold to the insurance companies. The seller was The Democratic Party. Safetykitten Aug 2013 #137

We bought the tag lines, "access" Puzzledtraveller Aug 2013 #140

kick n/t area51 Aug 2013 #144