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67. Probably what they said.

Wed Aug 14, 2013, 01:48 PM

Aug 2013

But at some point you stop and say the grief over saving lives isn't worth being disparaged and reviled by those who live for suspicion and ill will.

When fighting them consumes resources that could save lives, I'd probably start saying, "Fine--instead of having one dead kid, let's have two. Because if we don't, there'll be even more death."

The girl's family by getting her the first lung transplant killed somebody. They should be reminded that they bought their girl's life by sacrificing some stranger. That's America in 2013. We're all willing to sacrifice to help, as long as it's a "we" that means "anybody but me."

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Dying Black Teen Denied Heart Transplant Due Partly to Low Grades and Trouble With the Law [View all] MarkLaw Aug 2013 OP

Some previous discussion on this Orrex Aug 2013 #1

Should I move the thread? MarkLaw Aug 2013 #4

It's up to you Orrex Aug 2013 #7

I'm going to leave it MarkLaw Aug 2013 #9

So getting bad grades in school... vdogg Aug 2013 #2

No, only if you're poor and/or a minority. liberalhistorian Aug 2013 #5

Death panels /nt Ash_F Aug 2013 #3

Ok I'll bite Ash. What is your plan for a better system on how to prioritize cstanleytech Aug 2013 #25

There was an extensive prior post on this COLGATE4 Aug 2013 #6

Yes, I think there is uncertainty about how the doctors arrived at that decision. MarkLaw Aug 2013 #8

There didn't seem to be any uncertainty. The people in COLGATE4 Aug 2013 #10

How they arrived at that decision is what is being questioned. Was bias, racial/economic prejudice MarkLaw Aug 2013 #12

Whatever... COLGATE4 Aug 2013 #14

+1 Doctors are people, too! TheDebbieDee Aug 2013 #55

Sure, but the racism angle is much more effective in getting people riled up Freddie Stubbs Aug 2013 #13

Exactly. If the boy was taken off the recipient list COLGATE4 Aug 2013 #15

Only you are taking an extreme position. Its rude and historically innacurate to believe prejudice MarkLaw Aug 2013 #17

Gross overgeneralizations coupled with COLGATE4 Aug 2013 #18

Your the one attempting to obfuscate the discussion and lead people to believe MarkLaw Aug 2013 #36

"Riled up?" Do sober people even use that word? n/t Judi Lynn Aug 2013 #22

I hope so, because I have to drive a car in little bit Freddie Stubbs Aug 2013 #23

And likely had poor family support Warpy Aug 2013 #29

You're just ruining a good 'it must be race' rant COLGATE4 Aug 2013 #32

Oh, shame on me Warpy Aug 2013 #35

Jesus! I was agreeing with you!!!! nt COLGATE4 Aug 2013 #43

". . . and run-ins with law enforcement." another_liberal Aug 2013 #11

Georgia's black incarceration rate is lower than the national average RZM Aug 2013 #38

What is the percentage of White versus Black youth incarceration? another_liberal Aug 2013 #58

First of all RZM Aug 2013 #59

HE'S FIFTEEN.... meanit Aug 2013 #16

I he gets the heart, some other young person won't get it. GreenStormCloud Aug 2013 #19

No. What they insist on is a recipient who is COLGATE4 Aug 2013 #20

In other words its math, right? nt cstanleytech Aug 2013 #26

If by "it's the math" you mean that the extremely COLGATE4 Aug 2013 #30

A mathematics predicated on subjective and arbitrary lines drawn by the fallibility of humans. LanternWaste Aug 2013 #54

How would YOU allocate scarce organs for transplant COLGATE4 Aug 2013 #60

So now transplants are going to be decided by PR? MicaelS Aug 2013 #61

I always thought meanit Aug 2013 #27

No. Priority of the person is the first criteria. But COLGATE4 Aug 2013 #28

So meanit Aug 2013 #37

They know a hell of a lot more about him than you do. onenote Aug 2013 #41

I'm glad you have such faith in our for-profit health care system. meanit Aug 2013 #62

You have a job? Do you do it for the money? Igel Aug 2013 #66

Not what I said. meanit Aug 2013 #69

It can indeed be just that azurnoir Aug 2013 #40

Being late is not usually an issue, it is missing appointments eilen Aug 2013 #46

I've seen being late made an issue but see below azurnoir Aug 2013 #47

Probably what they said. Igel Aug 2013 #67

I work in the medical field and can tell you that azurnoir Aug 2013 #21

Thank you for your comments. Much appreciated. n/t Judi Lynn Aug 2013 #24

If I were you I'd certainly be looking for a COLGATE4 Aug 2013 #31

these things occured at different places all incidents involved pediatrics ETA azurnoir Aug 2013 #33

+1 Gormy Cuss Aug 2013 #34

I haven't seen that eilen Aug 2013 #49

see post #39 they had a change of heart on the matter azurnoir Aug 2013 #51

Are you happy now? sgsmith Aug 2013 #39

Probably changed course d/t press. It affects their patient eilen Aug 2013 #48

Here is also a link from today's Atlanta local news station. RebelOne Aug 2013 #70

Then how did Dick Cheney get a heart? He dropped out of college Rex Aug 2013 #42

Dick Cheney was also a Draft Dodger warrant46 Aug 2013 #44

And shot a friend in the face Omaha Steve Aug 2013 #50

With a Shotgun warrant46 Aug 2013 #53

And they didn't want to give a new liver to drunk-assed Mickey Mantle. Dreamer Tatum Aug 2013 #45

But they did meanit Aug 2013 #63

Atlanta boy goes on transplant list after earlier refusal: family Eugene Aug 2013 #52

OMG a teen who parties and has some skirmishes with the law Skittles Aug 2013 #56

Someone's not following the Hippocratic Oath. That's very "pro-life" of them. muntrv Aug 2013 #57

How do you know they are "pro-life"? Puzzledtraveller Aug 2013 #64

So now transplants are going to be decided by PR? MicaelS Aug 2013 #65

Anthony should surely have a biventricular pacemaker placed & then a bridge to transplant! n/t hue Aug 2013 #68

the poor always go behind the rich, but he didn't help his okieinpain Aug 2013 #71