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Hekate

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32. The problem is as follows, and I watched it happen in real time... Long, so get your popcorn, okay?
Fri Aug 16, 2013, 02:31 AM
Aug 2013

There were several parts to it:

• I kept reading and hearing (20-30 years ago) that the future of employment in the US was going to be in the service industries -- lots and lots of jobs in the service industries. The economists made it sound inevitable and pretty much something to be celebrated. But parse that sentence for yourself. "Future of employment" and "service industries." "That's where all the new jobs will be" and "the lowest wages/skills around" i.e. hotel maids, fast food workers, and my favorite: caretakers in nursing homes. The economists and their ilk actually delineated these as jobs of the future.

As an adult at the time my course in life was already set. But my kids were very young. I looked at that prognostication through a parent's eyes and saw that it sucked the big one as a future for my kids and anyone else's kids. Because that was the future of employment in the US.

• The US began to outsource skilled jobs in manufacturing. Sometimes entire plants were disassembled and shipped away to foreign lands, sometimes new plants were built in said foreign lands and the old ones in the US were left to rot in place.

My Dad was a skilled blue collar worker his entire life, and a member of his union. Jobs like that are gone, and the unions too.

The economists and CEOs saw this and said it was good, and talked about retraining workers for the new high-tech world. But I wondered how that meshed with the future of employment being in the service industries.

• The US began to outsource high-tech jobs. My sister, a computer engineer and tech writer, remotely trained her own replacement overseas more than once before being laid off, also more than once. At one of the plants early on they had some kind of thing where they were supposed to assess your skills and retrain you. They tried to train the engineer to be a word processor -- you know, a typist. For this she went to UC Berkeley as one of the first women in Engineering?

The economists and CEOs looked on this and said it was fantastic for the bottom line, given what they could pay equivalent workers in India, but they stopped talking about retraining redundant workers for The Future.

• And now here we are, pretty much where it was foretold we would be. The present prospects of employment in the US are in the service industries. The CEOs and shareholders make obscene amounts of money. Workers can't even support themselves, much less a family.

• I've seen this before, in a couple of iterations: one, the farm workers' strikes led by Cesar Chavez in California, and two, hotel and restaurant workers in Hawai'i.

The owners/employers in both cases were making obscene amounts of money. But what to do with those oh-so-disposable workers?

Chavez certainly tried to unionize, and poured his heart and soul into it. I remember the 1960s grape boycott well, as I was in college in California at the time. The analyses that appeared in the LA Times and elsewhere (probably PBS) indicated that if all the workers were to receive living wages and decent working conditions (water to wash with, port-a-potties at the fields instead of nothing, not getting sprayed with insecticides, all that kind of stuff) the aggregate costs that would be passed along to consumers would be.... pennies. As an exceedingly poor college student myself I remember thinking, "I could afford that, so that human beings could live like human beings."

In California today farm workers still live like peons. Agri-business is still filthy rich.

In Hawai'i the unions had an established place in the tourist industry, which was and is the major form of employment in that state. You want service industries? Look for cocktail waitresses who make an entire career of serving drinks with a smile while wearing a sarong. Maybe they wanted to do something else, but there wasn't anything else.

I don't know how the unions are doing today, as I left in 1978, but here is how it was when I was there: My first husband arrived and looked for work compatible with his new B.A., but ended up bar tending at the Ilikai Hotel for 10 years. It was a union job, and it was the union that kept us and people like us from being nothing but peons. We got married, had two babies. The babies were both born in the Kaiser Hospital, and cost us $70 for the hospital stay and postpartum checkups. His job included a retirement pension plan as well as health care coverage for the family. We bought a little condo. We were middle class mostly by aspiration, but were not by any means poor.

The tourist industry, meanwhile, boomed. Whatever costs there were for treating workers like human beings, the tourists obviously did not feel ripped off when they came to visit, and they kept coming.

• All of my life-experience leads me to conclude the following: If the only jobs available are low-skill and low-pay, people will take them because they must work to eat. But if the employer is making money beyond the dreams of avarice, then it is only decent for the employer to pay a living wage and provide a safe work environment and benefits.

Very few employers do this voluntarily -- only Costco, Trader Joe's, and Starbucks come to mind. That's what unions are for -- to negotiate with employers to do the right thing, to strike if necessary.

Believe me when I say: McDonald's shareholders won't be injured if the burger-flippers can afford to rent an apartment and buy groceries and put gas in the tank.

And the cost to the consumer? Pennies.

Hekate

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K/R. (nt) NYC_SKP Aug 2013 #1
A sign of the times. 20 years ago, the industry was full of kids behind the counter. Jackpine Radical Aug 2013 #2
Many of the kids of 20 yrs ago are the same ones behind the counter now.... n/t JusticeForAll Aug 2013 #17
If I'm supposed to boycott the restaurants in support of the workers... brooklynite Aug 2013 #3
thats irony maindawg Aug 2013 #5
Doubling the wages might halve the workforce BadgerKid Aug 2013 #7
Better research please.... daleanime Aug 2013 #8
That argument gets made every time someone suggests an increase in the minimum wage. LongTomH Aug 2013 #10
Forbes:The Real Change In The Cost Of A Big Mac If McDonald's Workers Were Paid $15 An Hour: Nothing Omaha Steve Aug 2013 #14
The last studies I saw on this subject found the opposite, jobs increased in number. tclambert Aug 2013 #25
Whatever the case, doesn't it sound like a good idea to have fast-food workers staying healthy? calimary Aug 2013 #29
Having healthy, relatively happy workers is a good thing. BadgerKid Aug 2013 #30
Since this... DirtyDawg Aug 2013 #4
There's a super size joke in here somewhere. Odious justice Aug 2013 #6
cute olddots Aug 2013 #9
Not really... awoke_in_2003 Aug 2013 #16
most get it, because most live in reality fascisthunter Aug 2013 #11
In n Out Burgers cost more than McDonalds' burgers, SleeplessinSoCal Aug 2013 #12
The broad base for raising minimum wage always shocks Republicans Nevernose Aug 2013 #13
Speaking of advertising... PopeOxycontinI Aug 2013 #19
Flash: Nation Crippled by Fast Food Strike! Citizens Forced To Eat Healthy Food Instead. Towlie Aug 2013 #15
My wife and I have not eaten in any fast-food joint in the past 10 years, other than HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #22
+1 blkmusclmachine Aug 2013 #18
Hope this movement spreads and forces MSM to cover it. Eleanors38 Aug 2013 #20
might be a good thing Niceguy1 Aug 2013 #21
Fast food empires are so obscenely wealthy that the consumer pass-along wd be pennies Hekate Aug 2013 #24
paying unskilled workrrs Niceguy1 Aug 2013 #31
The problem is as follows, and I watched it happen in real time... Long, so get your popcorn, okay? Hekate Aug 2013 #32
I wish them all the best. Unions have GOT to make a comeback for the sake of the nation... Hekate Aug 2013 #23
and as I union member I agree Niceguy1 Aug 2013 #33
Please read my long post above and see what you think. Hekate Aug 2013 #34
arbitary pay increases do not go up the ladder Niceguy1 Aug 2013 #36
I have to ask why $15/hour bugs you so much. Are you living in a super low-cost area or something? Hekate Aug 2013 #35
pay should be based in skills Niceguy1 Aug 2013 #37
Concepts of fair price and just wages go back to the Medieval Catholic Church Hekate Aug 2013 #38
Progress for workers will only come from this. Benton D Struckcheon Aug 2013 #26
I'd like to see protesters demand a MAXIMUM wage. tclambert Aug 2013 #27
This is exciting. So glad this is finally starting to take root. limpyhobbler Aug 2013 #28
What's funny is that all they're asking is for the money to trickle down. Neoma Aug 2013 #39
or people will stop patronizing such places Puzzledtraveller Aug 2013 #40
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