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Fri Aug 16, 2013, 05:53 PM

Aug 2013

This has nothing more to do with Assange's whistleblowing than Bradley Mannings' transvestitism had to do with his whistleblowing.

I think Assange is mistaken, naive and uninformed to say that the 'libertarian' wing of the Wingnut Party is the only hope for our democracy. My opinion is that the only hope for our democracy is throwing out the 'TRADE SECRET' voting machines, over which the far rightwing-connected, wingnut ES&S corporation (which bought out Diebold) now has a 75% monopoly in the USA--and by which wingnuts are being (s)elected for high office. That's how we got this wingnut, UNREPRESENTATIVE Congress and a number of wingnut governors and state legislatures.

I wish Assange had some secret files on THAT!

But my opinion of his opinion of the R. Paul's doesn't make him any less of a whistleblower and a very courageous one at that. I don't care if his politics are mistaken in my view. I agree with everything he's done, as to whistleblowing, and he has been viciously targeted by the very same secret government establishment in this country that has destroyed the rule of law.

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Assange: 'I am a big admirer of Ron Paul' [View all] Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 OP

Good bye, Julian. jessie04 Aug 2013 #1

Post removed Post removed Aug 2013 #2

I smelled that long ago Rosa Luxemburg Aug 2013 #51

Yeah, me too. AverageJoe90 Aug 2013 #148

I've had it with Obama apologists smearing civil liberties activists as Ron/Rand Paul supporters! geek tragedy Aug 2013 #3

He just said he is a big admirer of Ron Paul iandhr Aug 2013 #5

He DID qualify his admiration MNBrewer Aug 2013 #81

No. He said he admired their principled positions on drone war, spying and wikileaks NoOneMan Aug 2013 #87

Also anti-choice, anti-teacher, anti-union....yeah, a real upstanding "leftie." MADem Aug 2013 #103

Anti-gay. anti-environmental protection, mountain top removal supporter, wants a Christian nation. freshwest Aug 2013 #139

An intelligent human being looks at the whole package, and in so doing, MADem Aug 2013 #143

+1,000. freshwest Aug 2013 #145

So all civil libertarians are bad now? NoOneMan Aug 2013 #6

Anyone who supports Ron/Rand Paul is playing for the wrong team. No exceptions, nt geek tragedy Aug 2013 #8

Fuck the ACLU. Terrorists NoOneMan Aug 2013 #37

The ACLU didn't slobber over the Paul crime syndicate. nt geek tragedy Aug 2013 #62

Anyone who is against domestic spying is against us. NoOneMan Aug 2013 #72

One can oppose privacy violations without geek tragedy Aug 2013 #75

Perfect post. nt Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #124

Civil libertarianism isn't a subset of libertarianism struggle4progress Aug 2013 #9

I understand that. Some people don't NoOneMan Aug 2013 #38

True. But Assange aligned himself with the "Libertarian section of the Republican party." pnwmom Aug 2013 #65

Assange isn't a "right-wing Republican". He isn't even American NoOneMan Aug 2013 #74

You're right, I misspoke. He merely said that the Libertarian section of the Republican party pnwmom Aug 2013 #128

The Democratic Party has held the reigns for the last few years NoOneMan Aug 2013 #129

Where do you live? Since when is Bonehead Boehner a Democrat? MADem Aug 2013 #144

What difference does it make? Does it make the spying ok because of their political Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #125

Well, that's funny. In all the anti-Greenwald threads for several weeks Hissyspit Aug 2013 #91

huh? struggle4progress Aug 2013 #92

For weeks people deliberately conflated civil libertarian and Libertarian Hissyspit Aug 2013 #93

I knew that an Authoritarian like you would say something like that ... JoePhilly Aug 2013 #41

But, but, but!!! He brings up important points!!! freshwest Aug 2013 #56

The Ends Justifies the Means Crowd won't understand your joke! VanillaRhapsody Aug 2013 #79

I think some folks don't understand what the end results will be. Just sayin' freshwest Aug 2013 #88

If you look past the fact that Paul is a massive racist who pals around Adenoid_Hynkel Aug 2013 #130

Guilty as charged. But not about DUers. Media heroes are fair game, though. freshwest Aug 2013 #140

Of course he is BeyondGeography Aug 2013 #4

Video available. Assange says "The only hope as far as electoral politics are concerned struggle4progress Aug 2013 #7

Well then. I guess we are doomed. /nt Ash_F Aug 2013 #43

Well that is very telling... xoom Aug 2013 #118

He's gonna get GOTV for the GOP? Fuck that idea. No, nope, non, nein, nyet. freshwest Aug 2013 #141

"Con man" is absolutely right, fresh. He knows he has a lot Cha Aug 2013 #147

i have thought for some time that Snowden is hoping Rand Paul becomes President and that's when JI7 Aug 2013 #10

It's so obvious. he better not have a snowball's chance Cha Aug 2013 #146

shouldnt be all that shocking.. iamthebandfanman Aug 2013 #11

He doesn't have to live in the US NoOneMan Aug 2013 #39

obama says he has similar views to mitt romney so are you all gonna dump obama now? nt msongs Aug 2013 #12

and he admires reagan iamthebandfanman Aug 2013 #16

Except he never said that ... JoePhilly Aug 2013 #45

Bandman bravely ran away ... eom Kolesar Aug 2013 #134

Other than the fact that Obamacare is based on Romneycare, they have remarkably different views pnwmom Aug 2013 #19

And thats probably pretty much the same for Assange and Paul NoOneMan Aug 2013 #40

Assange is a huge supporter of the Paul's and other Libertarian Republicans. pnwmom Aug 2013 #63

They might be. NoOneMan Aug 2013 #64

Why isn't he saying that people like Warren and Grayson are our "best hope"? pnwmom Aug 2013 #67

For the love of God. He isn't even American NoOneMan Aug 2013 #73

I am aware of that. But he reveals his political preferences when he discusses his beliefs pnwmom Aug 2013 #80

Is Ralph Nader going to get the Democratic nod and win the nation over? NoOneMan Aug 2013 #86

If he is progressive, why doesn't he support Elizabeth Warren or Alan Grayson? pnwmom Aug 2013 #96

For the love of God. Badger the audience for not asking about Warren or Grayson NoOneMan Aug 2013 #98

Does the video prove that he didn't speak in support of the Paul's and the Libertarians? pnwmom Aug 2013 #99

Haha, you didn't watch the video! Watch it. NoOneMan Aug 2013 #101

I'm not going to watch the video because Assange, pnwmom Aug 2013 #117

Neener neener, I can't hear you! NoOneMan Aug 2013 #123

You're making a fool of yourself. bitchkitty Aug 2013 #135

Not being American doesn't exclude you from having an identifiable ideology. phleshdef Aug 2013 #104

He answered an audience question about the Pauls. I would of basically said the same fuckn thing NoOneMan Aug 2013 #105

"The only hope as far as electoral politics are concerned in the United States presently..." phleshdef Aug 2013 #107

Well, is Nader going to win the nomination? NoOneMan Aug 2013 #109

Everyone is entitled to an opinion. So fucking what? phleshdef Aug 2013 #110

And talking shit is all you are doing indeed. NoOneMan Aug 2013 #112

I feel this right here says it all! xoom Aug 2013 #119

Yeah, but did he have boxes in his garage? mindwalker_i Aug 2013 #13

OK, this is gonna be an interesting night Iliyah Aug 2013 #14

Barack Obama: George W Bush is a good man, generous, compassionate Skeeter Barnes Aug 2013 #15

This thread isn't about Obama. Tobin S. Aug 2013 #18

Bob Dylan: "but I got to admit honestly that I too - I saw some of myself in [Lee Harvey Oswald]" NoOneMan Aug 2013 #47

1. No need to get personal. 2. You don't me from Bob Dylan or what I do or have done. Tobin S. Aug 2013 #54

Its not even about Ron Paul? NoOneMan Aug 2013 #55

Thank you!!! Peace Patriot Aug 2013 #22

And the President admires Ronald Reagan. progressoid Aug 2013 #17

Please post the video where he said that. JoePhilly Aug 2013 #46

This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by pscompany progressoid Aug 2013 #68

Not really.. Cha Aug 2013 #70

Oh my dear Cha! sheshe2 Aug 2013 #71

+1 for the truth Politicub Aug 2013 #126

.. Cha Aug 2013 #127

Fuck Him. he is a user and abuser CBGLuthier Aug 2013 #20

Assange could iandhr Aug 2013 #21

This is certainly an interesting turn of events, it'll send shockwaves through Neo-DU. tridim Aug 2013 #27

Ron Paul Says TV Venture Contributes To The 'Cause of liberty'... tridim Aug 2013 #23

Sad...I'd always assumed Assange to be smarter than this... Blue_Tires Aug 2013 #24

Lots of Tea Party people hated the bank bailouts eridani Aug 2013 #25

The irrelevance. It burns. Maedhros Aug 2013 #26

does he think he'd be better off under president ron paul ? madrchsod Aug 2013 #28

? Hissyspit Aug 2013 #94

A potential President Ron Paul would be much worse than President Obama Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #97

For Julian Assange? Hissyspit Aug 2013 #115

I guess that makes me a Paulite, as well MNBrewer Aug 2013 #29

well, aren't all we all racists, etc, for disagreeing with the spying and such? stupidicus Aug 2013 #33

Whatever, asshole. ellie Aug 2013 #30

Either Assange is naive, or he's a woman-hating, poor people-hating lunatic racist. Zen Democrat Aug 2013 #31

which of course invalidates everything he's ever said and done stupidicus Aug 2013 #32

Read that at RS Iliyah Aug 2013 #35

I updated the OP to include this in the comments. n/t Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #49

Well heaven05 Aug 2013 #34

So much for him being a left-wing hero. Just another libertarian dirt bag!! OregonBlue Aug 2013 #36

With us or against us NoOneMan Aug 2013 #44

The quote from Assange should've been... Cooley Hurd Aug 2013 #42

Whoa....."an admirer"? Seriously? Hulk Aug 2013 #48

Watch the video. He was asked a question by the audience on a variety of controversial people/groups NoOneMan Aug 2013 #76

Haha! Thanks for the comical relief in this thread! xoom Aug 2013 #121

Guilt by association is one of the informal logical fallacies Jack Rabbit Aug 2013 #50

Fuck him. Snowden too. Libertarian fuckwads. nt onehandle Aug 2013 #52

*snicker* freshwest Aug 2013 #53

I thought RT was red commie propaganda? I guess only when the truth is off script? Civilization2 Aug 2013 #57

I know it's hard to keep up, but the Free Magic Market Handers disassembled the Soviet Union struggle4progress Aug 2013 #60

Thank you for this thread, Cali Democrat. Maedhros Aug 2013 #58

As the fog gets clearer we can see more of the sky, the message becomes clear, they Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #59

Julian needs to get out more. I think he is losing it. Next he'll be open to more of Lyndon LaRuche. marble falls Aug 2013 #61

" Julian needs to get out more...." Quasimodem Aug 2013 #100

Yeah, I'll just bet he's an admirer of that racist pig, ron paul while calling Cha Aug 2013 #66

The Pauls? Drudge? BumRushDaShow Aug 2013 #69

You do realize, he wasn't asked about Grayson or Warren. It was an audience question NoOneMan Aug 2013 #78

Well certainly Ron Paul loves these folks BumRushDaShow Aug 2013 #89

WOW Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #95

Now stop it with nuance and context! Hissyspit Aug 2013 #90

How does this stack up to Obama's praise of Ronald Reagan? villager Aug 2013 #77

Funny you asked Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #82

Funny, some of his policies still seem indistinguishable from many Reagan-era ones. villager Aug 2013 #83

You are certainly entitled to your opinion Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #84

well, I wish there was less of a ballooning MIC informing my opinion villager Aug 2013 #85

Maybe Obama should round up asians, drop a nuclear bomb and start a war in Vietnam. phleshdef Aug 2013 #106

well if he did, he'd have vociferous, unquestioning defenders for each of those acts villager Aug 2013 #108

Good way to avoid the point. phleshdef Aug 2013 #111

My point is, people like you would defend each of those acts, uncritically, and loudly. villager Aug 2013 #122

Blue Team Good fujiyama Aug 2013 #114

I believe it is possible to be wrong about something Live and Learn Aug 2013 #102

Quelle surprise. 6000eliot Aug 2013 #113

Am I reading this right? xoom Aug 2013 #116

Hmmm, not surprised. maddezmom Aug 2013 #120

I'm not really bothered by this fujiyama Aug 2013 #131

And this surprise who? grantcart Aug 2013 #132

reply 2 should not have been hidden ... eom Kolesar Aug 2013 #133

And white supremacists too, apparently Number23 Aug 2013 #136

I disagree with him on this, but that doesn't change whether the info he released was true or not yurbud Aug 2013 #137

Ad Hominem (Guilt by Association) argumentum ad hominem (also known as: bad company fallacy askeptic Aug 2013 #138

Sorry--that's ad hominem REASONING to reject the guy. MADem Aug 2013 #142