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24. Labor laws have to change in China. As I said they can plant the seed of reform, but it is up

Sat Aug 17, 2013, 12:02 PM

Aug 2013

to China to reform themselves. Even with our labor laws we see worker abuse. We are still uncovering instances of slavery on US soil.

Have you held Hewlett Packard or Dell accountable for factory conditions? What about Microsoft? Don't just concentrate on one company, address all US companies who use third world labor. Only Apple has come under scrutiny and it appears they are responding appropriately. Apple can't do it by themselves.

Apple can only address abuses they know about. That is why they are hiring more monitors. The more eyes and ears they have on the ground, the better.

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Apple uses slave labor to make their products AgingAmerican Aug 2013 #1

Sadly, so does just about everyone else. nt Flatulo Aug 2013 #2

Sadly, Apple can afford not too... ChromeFoundry Aug 2013 #3

Of course. They could build a fully robotic factory which would not employ many workers, Flatulo Aug 2013 #4

i have been in a few of those factories, Sen. Walter Sobchak Aug 2013 #30

That's right - feeding the machines. Yet even these super-modern plants cannot Flatulo Aug 2013 #31

Why is that? Egnever Aug 2013 #37

The President personally asked Apple to bring some iPhone jobs back here, and Flatulo Aug 2013 #38

Obviously they couldnt make them all here Egnever Aug 2013 #39

Yep... awoke_in_2003 Aug 2013 #15

True AgingAmerican Aug 2013 #35

Some of those hired are to monitor working conditions at factories. Can you prove they alfredo Aug 2013 #21

Is Apple Corp just full of a bunch of lying fucks, the worst of modern plantation owners? jtuck004 Aug 2013 #5

To be honest, I have a hard time feeling sorry for the Chinese laborer. It's up to them to demand Flatulo Aug 2013 #6

So McDonalds employees should just insist on better wages, be thrown out on their jtuck004 Aug 2013 #7

I'd like to see all workers organize. I'm just saying that we can't do it for the Chinese. Flatulo Aug 2013 #10

Yeah, that's true. I just wish we had better examples for them to follow. jtuck004 Aug 2013 #11

In my lifetime... awoke_in_2003 Aug 2013 #16

Maybe. I think it's a different world than I grew up in, and I don't think a lot of jtuck004 Aug 2013 #18

I was thinking the same thing, but maybe for different reasons. Flatulo Aug 2013 #19

Yes, on both of those points. One of the big subsidies that workers have had jtuck004 Aug 2013 #20

Speaking as one who's been outsourced three times, I don't think those jobs are coming back here. Flatulo Aug 2013 #25

Exactly. If one reads through the history from about 1865 to the 1920ish era jtuck004 Aug 2013 #26

I think you might be falling into the MBA mindset seabeckind Aug 2013 #28

I spent most of my career as a design engineer in the tech sector, specifically disk drives. Flatulo Aug 2013 #34

They are doing plenty of "demanding". pampango Aug 2013 #32

Why didn't you highlight Apple's response? alfredo Aug 2013 #22

In the article it appears that despite their assurances many bad practices continue jtuck004 Aug 2013 #23

Labor laws have to change in China. As I said they can plant the seed of reform, but it is up alfredo Aug 2013 #24

Look. Until "the west" understands the concept of "fair trade" rather than "free trade", delrem Aug 2013 #8

^this^ defacto7 Aug 2013 #9

f*** them Skittles Aug 2013 #12

Hold your tongue and say Apple... tofuandbeer Aug 2013 #13

Not manufacturing.... TM99 Aug 2013 #14

Thx, yes. tofuandbeer Aug 2013 #17

Meanwhile Google starts manufacturing phones in Texas Egnever Aug 2013 #27

Didn't they sell more iphones in china than the US last year? n/t hughee99 Aug 2013 #29

That's indeed happening. US-based companies are looking at the Far East not just as a source Flatulo Aug 2013 #33

iPhone market share has been plummeting in China recently. cprise Aug 2013 #36