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16. That's what happens when Fascists stage a coup and people support them.

Sun Aug 18, 2013, 12:11 AM

Aug 2013

The Egyptian army used that nation's Christians to help them overthrow the first democratically elected President in Egypt's history. Now the Muslim Brotherhood is taking revenge on Christians for hundreds of pro-Morsi demonstrators murdered by the army. It is deplorable, but when you support murderers, it can backfire on you in terrible ways.

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Egypt: Islamists hit Christian churches [View all] question everything Aug 2013 OP

And in other news...how many innocent people were killed in that mosque? nt kelliekat44 Aug 2013 #1

Too many! My neighbors who are in Egypt said their Church has been desecrated and Copts hrmjustin Aug 2013 #3

The similarities are amazing. jessie04 Aug 2013 #2

Last week's violence was the tipping point. fujiyama Aug 2013 #4

The Copts have been getting the dirty end of the stick for a long time. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #5

Well, they would have been ok except ... jessie04 Aug 2013 #8

Well, at least they had a playbook to go by. jessie04 Aug 2013 #51

This article seems aimed toward fomenting (or apologizing for) a civil war delrem Aug 2013 #6

The reality is that it is happening that way. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #9

The *reality* is that the military staged a COUP delrem Aug 2013 #20

That is true but let us not forget that there was a reason a majority of the nation supported the hrmjustin Aug 2013 #22

"a majority of the nation supported the coup" delrem Aug 2013 #23

Ok maybe I am not in a position to make that claim but you have to admit a large portion hrmjustin Aug 2013 #26

No. delrem Aug 2013 #31

I am not saying I support the coup but I understand it. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #34

The Egyptian military could give a flying fart about "democracy" and "inclusiveness". delrem Aug 2013 #71

I think most westerners thought that a majority of people were for the coup in Egypt and it hrmjustin Aug 2013 #72

I've been part of demonstrations numbering in the 100's of 1,000's. delrem Aug 2013 #73

I do not know how a coup can be peaceful, but people here thought it would be. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #74

delrem its not that black and white FarrenH Aug 2013 #58

A military coup is about as 'black and white' as you can get. delrem Aug 2013 #70

Not in terms of the value judgements you're making FarrenH Aug 2013 #75

You already had lost me before you suggested that I "huff and puff". delrem Aug 2013 #85

How is that a rational response? FarrenH Aug 2013 #91

First I "huff and puff". Now I'm irrational. delrem Aug 2013 #92

Indeed FarrenH Aug 2013 #93

And now I'm supposed to *satisfy* you? delrem Aug 2013 #94

Fair enough FarrenH Aug 2013 #106

Technically inaccurate telclaven Aug 2013 #77

True. And a plurality is NOT a majority. burnsei sensei Aug 2013 #83

Oh, I apologize telclaven Aug 2013 #90

Your math is fine but you did not read m statement. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #84

In the first round of elections, something like forty percent of eligible voters turned out. MADem Aug 2013 #102

Agree! get the red out Aug 2013 #78

No, the military staged a revolution, supported by three fourths of the population--or more. MADem Aug 2013 #101

No, the truth is that Islamicists are attacking Christians VirginiaTarheel Aug 2013 #10

That's what happens when Fascists stage a coup and people support them. another_liberal Aug 2013 #16

The Copts would not support the MB because they are responsible for murdering Copts. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #19

I wasn't suggesting they had no reason to oppose Morsi. another_liberal Aug 2013 #63

The MB would have gone after them whether they supported to coup or not. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #65

You know that for a fact? another_liberal Aug 2013 #66

Because when they were in power they were doing it already. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #67

Do you have proof it was the Muslim Brotherhood's official policy? another_liberal Aug 2013 #68

forgive me my friend I was not clear. What I mean is that Copts have been oppressed by hrmjustin Aug 2013 #69

Your posts are sickening tabasco Aug 2013 #59

I'm fascinated and I want to learn more! another_liberal Aug 2013 #62

Blaming the victims of religious leftynyc Aug 2013 #76

Great post get the red out Aug 2013 #79

Finding out that what you believed to be the one and only truth is really a lie? another_liberal Aug 2013 #80

I have no idea leftynyc Aug 2013 #81

Ignorance is bliss . . . another_liberal Aug 2013 #82

More babbling leftynyc Aug 2013 #87

Seems rather odd . . . another_liberal Aug 2013 #88

Holy fucking hell NutmegYankee Aug 2013 #86

There are victims on both sides . . . another_liberal Aug 2013 #89

Religious Biases? The Muslim Brotherhood did not respect the civil right or Christians or religious hrmjustin Aug 2013 #96

Right, Virginia . . . another_liberal Aug 2013 #97

Do you not like the Copts? Do they deserve what they are getting? hrmjustin Aug 2013 #98

No one deserves to have their houses of worship burned down, of course not. another_liberal Aug 2013 #99

What Christian thugs? I am not aware of what you speak of. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #100

There have been numerous reports of Christians attacking anti-coup marchers. another_liberal Aug 2013 #105

I have heard no reports of this. Violence is wrong. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #107

Yes, whether against pro-democracy marchers or Egyptian Christians, it is wrong. another_liberal Aug 2013 #108

Islam vs Christian. GENOCIDE!!!! Thanks, Virginia. delrem Aug 2013 #25

More like the MB against the Copts. It is very sad. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #27

I'm sure you think it's "very sad", hrmjustin. delrem Aug 2013 #32

This message was self-deleted by its author hrmjustin Aug 2013 #37

I am saddened by violence. I am a Christian, I do not believe in violence. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #39

I understand what you mean about the article here. It does make it seem like all Muslims are out to hrmjustin Aug 2013 #43

No shit. delrem Aug 2013 #44

Ok point taken. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #46

No it does not, all you have to do is read the whole article. Leontius Aug 2013 #64

Since its wrong to call them Islamists or terrorists... jessie04 Aug 2013 #7

Religion Is Evil 1ProudAtheist Aug 2013 #11

I have to disagree. I am a Christian and I don't feel it is evil. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #12

Of Course Not 1ProudAtheist Aug 2013 #14

Ok hrmjustin Aug 2013 #18

People Everywhere 1ProudAtheist Aug 2013 #33

I can not deny the fact that people have done evil in the name of religion. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #38

I can add that people have done truly horrible things in the name of atheism. n/t Igel Aug 2013 #50

Really? MellowDem Aug 2013 #61

The Tibetan Monks will be happy to hear this. jessie04 Aug 2013 #13

Buddhism 1ProudAtheist Aug 2013 #15

really? so as a religious person i'm evil? madrchsod Aug 2013 #28

No 1ProudAtheist Aug 2013 #35

Have you thought about being a Deacon for the Atheist Church? nt onehandle Aug 2013 #29

Atheism 1ProudAtheist Aug 2013 #36

Yeah, especially Wicca. Pterodactyl Aug 2013 #104

Mixing religion and politics creates evil bhikkhu Aug 2013 #17

I keep hearing that. I don't think you mean what you think. Igel Aug 2013 #53

Well, that certainly seems counter-productive Scootaloo Aug 2013 #21

Tell us are we supposed to translate "Islamists" to Morsi supporters? azurnoir Aug 2013 #24

That is a great question. If the leadership of the Copts stood with the Military then the military hrmjustin Aug 2013 #30

okay however reread the opening of the OP azurnoir Aug 2013 #40

Yes I can see what you mean now. The words were poorly chosen. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #41

well kind of but not so much azurnoir Aug 2013 #42

Skepticism is not a bad thing. The story could have been embellished. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #45

That's the problem I have. Igel Aug 2013 #54

GOD BLESS EVERYONE! Rebellious Republican Aug 2013 #47

Bless everyone. There is no god/goddess/gods. nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2013 #48

Recommended this thread because it is a problem that deserves notice (not something I like). nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2013 #49

Story is a Plant by Our Govt. to Get US Citizens on the Side of the Army School Teacher Aug 2013 #52

Thank you for the "deplore". jessie04 Aug 2013 #55

If it is true, it's not a plant. At most it might be a push. nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2013 #60

And here some of the results of the Coptic "Kristalnacht" jessie04 Aug 2013 #56

You're a pro at this. Robotic, yes, but a pro nonetheless. delrem Aug 2013 #103

MB shows true colors again Devil Child Aug 2013 #57

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2013 #95