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23. "Responsible police department"?

Tue Feb 21, 2012, 07:49 AM

Feb 2012

Sort of like "jumbo shrimp" or "peacekeeper missiles," isn't it?

In every police force in this country, we have a situation hwere police officers are totally above the law; they do not ever see prison time. Ever. They are never convicted. even if htier department conducts an actual investigation, nothing comes of it, becuase hte training is siege mentality - us vs. them.

Further, both our judicial system and police forces are beholden to the private prison industry, and the police also receive beaucoup funds from Homeland Security in order to invest in the military-industrial complex.

I guess what I'm saying is.. .we do not, and will not have anything resembling a "responsible police department" anywhere in this country, until we enact measures to make the police responsible to the citizenry. This will not happen until we cut out all the special interest funds feeding our police - the prisons, the federal departments, the focus groups, etc. Basically, there needs to be a total overhaul.

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Tasered woman now brain dead [View all] SunSeeker Feb 2012 OP

I hope that officer is charged with murder. CaliforniaPeggy Feb 2012 #1

the news article said that the officer's use of force was justified. Joe Shlabotnik Feb 2012 #4

Whoops. Never mind. Orrex Feb 2012 #16

Son of a bitch could have caught up to her if he was in physical shape. The Backlash Cometh Feb 2012 #62

...and then what? boppers Feb 2012 #198

nope. jschurchin Feb 2012 #210

It's the head bang... zentrum Feb 2012 #215

Tasing in theory, is less violent than a physical tackle. jschurchin Feb 2012 #245

So untrue. The Backlash Cometh Feb 2012 #268

She was already cuffed. caseymoz Feb 2012 #287

She was handcuffed already. eom. boppers Feb 2012 #219

She was cuffed. 1monster Feb 2012 #221

Judgemental name calling cbrer Feb 2012 #293

However did police manage to catch young women pre-Tasers? WinkyDink Feb 2012 #251

Magical sparkling nets of happiness, I think? boppers Feb 2012 #301

Really? Ash_F Feb 2012 #342

Multiple arrested felon, fleeing during transport to jail. boppers Feb 2012 #347

A 20 year old woman, handcuffed, was too much for this big tough guy? sabrina 1 Feb 2012 #298

Who said he was scared? boppers Feb 2012 #300

Why else would a big, tough guy like that feel the need to resort to nearly fatally injuring sabrina 1 Feb 2012 #302

She broke out of arm-grabbing range. boppers Feb 2012 #303

She was a danger to the public? NeoConsSuck Feb 2012 #331

If she ran in front of your car while you're cruising at 60 mph, and you swerved to miss her NickB79 Feb 2012 #346

I agree that the cop tased her because he was in no shape to chase her rocktivity Feb 2012 #231

In a sane world, traffic offenses are not considered capital crimes n/t MrModerate Feb 2012 #292

In that "sane" world, do car accidents not kill people? boppers Feb 2012 #304

So those thought to be at fault in an auto accident should be hanged from the nearest lamppost? MrModerate Feb 2012 #341

Or questioned. Until they're found to be driving without a license. boppers Feb 2012 #348

I think the guilt-o-meter on this one is all over the dial . . . MrModerate Feb 2012 #351

OK, so a 20 year old made a mistake & ran,.. handcuffed,... red dog 1 Feb 2012 #294

Post removed Post removed Feb 2012 #229

As a parent, I kept thinking that could have been my kid. SunSeeker Feb 2012 #5

So you want a 267 Lb man tackling a 100 lb woman. Yeah, that's not a recipe for injury. Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #52

A broken leg would have been a better scenario. The Backlash Cometh Feb 2012 #64

No, Bad judgment on the girl's part thedude333 Feb 2012 #74

so she deserved to die SemperEadem Feb 2012 #79

I feel your pain. The Backlash Cometh Feb 2012 #84

Post removed Post removed Feb 2012 #93

No, this is not the kind of response one would expect on DU... rexcat Feb 2012 #116

We don't call posters on DU dehumanizing names like that. MineralMan Feb 2012 #119

It's the strict xxqqqzme Feb 2012 #132

fucking ridiculous - yes she DESERVED to be met with force - She tried to escape a jail SaintPete Feb 2012 #194

No, killing this woman is disgusting. Boudica the Lyoness Feb 2012 #288

she didn't deserve *****TO DIE***** SemperEadem Feb 2012 #321

I couldn't agree less with the false argument - comparing perfectly legal examples of stereotypical 24601 Feb 2012 #269

no it doesn't SemperEadem Feb 2012 #322

Your saying it doesn't make it so. Given your statements - it likely makes it less so. 24601 Feb 2012 #337

In the same way that a woman who doesn't wear underwear deserves to be raped? The Backlash Cometh Feb 2012 #82

You're kidding, right? crim son Feb 2012 #113

There's a whole Supreme Court standard for it. boppers Feb 2012 #213

Right, it involves involves using good judgment under the circumstances, which this cop didn't do. SunSeeker Feb 2012 #259

You show much compasion for your fellow humans... rexcat Feb 2012 #117

Welcome to DU. One thing, if you want to look like a Democrat you must show rhett o rick Feb 2012 #152

Your immorality will fall back on you. tabasco Feb 2012 #227

No, she didn't. To get the death penalty, you have to be charged with murder, then you are sabrina 1 Feb 2012 #299

So when a 267 lb man tackles a 100 lb woman Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #129

he didn't even have to tackle her noiretextatique Feb 2012 #149

With what? boppers Feb 2012 #226

um...he could have run after her noiretextatique Feb 2012 #241

You do realize that cops chase and apprehend people all the time, right? Hugabear Feb 2012 #295

I can't get the link to work so I've got a question regarding madmom Feb 2012 #96

She had just been booked and was trying to escape Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #131

DRUGS IN HER SYSTEM, OMG. Well death is justified then. nm rhett o rick Feb 2012 #160

Wow. Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #175

Someone's sarcasmometer needs tuning ... nt eppur_se_muova Feb 2012 #265

I understood the sarcasm just fine Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #266

"Talk about a stupid post." Is that all you have. We are done. nm rhett o rick Feb 2012 #310

Nope, that is not all I had Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #313

oh, well there it is.. total justification for forfeiting her life SemperEadem Feb 2012 #170

Ooops, your slip is showing. To suggest that someone here suggested that rhett o rick Feb 2012 #140

He could have just shot her in the ankle. She may have been hamstrung, but she'd be alive. nt Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #145

No one suggested he should tackle her? Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #185

I believe those were all after your post, "So you want a 267 Lb man tackling a 100 lb woman." rhett o rick Feb 2012 #308

"Interesting how some "Democrats"" Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #315

"She is a criminal"? Oh really. So you've tried and convicted her and think she therefore rhett o rick Feb 2012 #328

Yes, she is a criminal Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #336

No, he should have just grabbed her by her handcuffed arms--no injury. SunSeeker Feb 2012 #166

She was handcuffed in front. nt Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #167

So? He could have grabbed either arm, or both, from behind. SunSeeker Feb 2012 #169

You ever try to restrain someone who is trying run purposefully into a busy road? Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #174

Yes, I do it all the time with my 8-year-old. SunSeeker Feb 2012 #181

How often is he irrational and hyped-up Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #186

Your 8 year does coke and oxy. Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #187

People do irrational things, whether on drugs or not. SunSeeker Feb 2012 #196

They are able to handle it. Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #209

Tasers and pepper spray are for self defense, not to extract "cooperation." SunSeeker Feb 2012 #220

Um, no Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #225

So it was OK for that campus cop to pepper spray all those UC Davis students? SunSeeker Feb 2012 #260

It depends on the specific case. Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #264

Stop going on about drugs. Boudica the Lyoness Feb 2012 #290

Yes I do. Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #317

Less about irrationality more about sensory perception and pain tolerance. nt Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #286

Did you see the video? Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #171

Yes, I did. The cop didn't even try. SunSeeker Feb 2012 #177

I disagree Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #192

No, you agree. SunSeeker Feb 2012 #199

I do like to disagree. Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #207

LOL. n/t SunSeeker Feb 2012 #214

It's all about controlling people isn't it? Boudica the Lyoness Feb 2012 #289

This "poor girl" Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #318

no jschurchin Feb 2012 #212

And then get on message boards and commit Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #217

Wow, I cannot believe your Carolina Feb 2012 #273

She didn't deserve it Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #274

Exactly. It would have been a simple matter for the officer to just throw his baton at her legs or Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #56

Actually, it looked to me as if the spinning around and hitting the ground Ms. Toad Feb 2012 #61

Sometimes it's not worth using the sarcasm tag. Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #63

Well... Ms. Toad Feb 2012 #89

LOL, 360 degrees would put her back on her face. nm rhett o rick Feb 2012 #159

He wont be because they already found that he used it cstanleytech Feb 2012 #8

Then the police department should be sued. The Backlash Cometh Feb 2012 #65

The parents can certainly try but considering it was done only after cstanleytech Feb 2012 #137

AND the people who gave him that taser, AND the people who sold that taser. DCKit Feb 2012 #10

I live near this classykaren Feb 2012 #13

Post removed Post removed Feb 2012 #230

Me too secondvariety Feb 2012 #234

Why? thedude333 Feb 2012 #78

Why? It's still a use of excessive force. Obviously. AnotherMcIntosh Feb 2012 #138

Appalling. BlueIris Feb 2012 #2

Perhaps I misread it but wasnt its the hitting her head on the pavement and not the taser cstanleytech Feb 2012 #9

Maybe the cop would have been better to just chase after her and grab her then? Kurmudgeon Feb 2012 #11

OH I agree he probably would have been better to chase her but I am talking about the claim cstanleytech Feb 2012 #12

Well if you are tasered and fall to the ground and hit your head malaise Feb 2012 #14

Well for one a bullet hole in the back of the head probably cstanleytech Feb 2012 #17

Some would prefer simply to see police punished for excessive use of force Scootaloo Feb 2012 #22

And I agree if excessive force is used it should be punished but thats not cstanleytech Feb 2012 #27

A taser can kill you no matter where you are hit. Occulus Feb 2012 #124

So are you arguing then that guns with bullets are a better alternative? cstanleytech Feb 2012 #134

Guns were used far less than tasers are today Scootaloo Feb 2012 #168

There is a huge difference between tasering a child and cstanleytech Feb 2012 #176

No one here is "arguing then that guns with bullets are a better alternative." rhett o rick Feb 2012 #309

"More and more people are being killed by police for not obeying" Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #312

Hey it's my opinion. nm rhett o rick Feb 2012 #327

He had 3 options right at that minute cstanleytech Feb 2012 #319

How far do you expect her to run? He could have walked after and brought her back. Her escape wasnt rhett o rick Feb 2012 #326

How far? Far enough to kill herself. cstanleytech Feb 2012 #330

No,there was a #4 NeoConsSuck Feb 2012 #332

You are trying to use common sense against rationalizations. rhett o rick Feb 2012 #333

Why tackle her as an option other than grabbing her? Because of the risk of her resisting even more cstanleytech Feb 2012 #334

Brain dead or bullet in the back malaise Feb 2012 #30

Depends where the bullet hits and how much damage it does. cstanleytech Feb 2012 #34

A bullet to the head would have been merciful. The Backlash Cometh Feb 2012 #68

The cocaine and oxy probably helped. nt Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #76

That explains why she exercised poor judgment. The Backlash Cometh Feb 2012 #81

I already agreed that any good cop would have been able to wing her with a bullet so Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #85

Here is where you're misguided: The Backlash Cometh Feb 2012 #95

Close doesnt = the act is accomplished. If it did I would have won the powerball jackpot already. cstanleytech Feb 2012 #135

He could have simply fired a bullet into the AIR Carolina Feb 2012 #276

I would be a little worried about where the bullet would land. nt Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #280

If he had chased her and tackled her, it might have ended the same way. tclambert Feb 2012 #20

Well in that case then lunatica Feb 2012 #45

If he had tackled her, she would have had a chance to buffer the fall with her cuffed hands. The Backlash Cometh Feb 2012 #69

If she died that way, the response would have been "why didn't he use his taser, isn't that what Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #77

Nobody would support a taser over a conventional tackling. The Backlash Cometh Feb 2012 #80

LOL. nt Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #87

Brilliant retort. The Backlash Cometh Feb 2012 #92

He is right though, the headline would probably have been cstanleytech Feb 2012 #202

What's more likely is that the cop didn't want to hit pavement. The Backlash Cometh Feb 2012 #272

Or just cracked his nightstick across the back of her legs. nt Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #285

Try reversing it though. What if it had been a 90 pound female police officer vs cstanleytech Feb 2012 #305

No need to. The Backlash Cometh Feb 2012 #316

Well the main thing isnt size the main one is cstanleytech Feb 2012 #320

It still doesn't justify the police's actions. The Backlash Cometh Feb 2012 #323

Hey you will get no argument from me that they need to secure them better. cstanleytech Feb 2012 #325

Nobody would support a tackling over use of a taser. boppers Feb 2012 #208

He probably could have walked following her for about a 100 feet and she would have stopped. rhett o rick Feb 2012 #164

And she could have decided not to try and escape. cstanleytech Feb 2012 #179

She was being punished for daring to try to escape. Police dont like it when you rhett o rick Feb 2012 #307

2 hit and runs that day, driving while intoxicated, multiple previous convictions. Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #311

Bullet or taser? And those were the only two alternatives? Right? Cop should truth2power Feb 2012 #15

Right. When you tase a running person Jackpine Radical Feb 2012 #40

Actually yes, its her fault cstanleytech Feb 2012 #46

She was 0% at fault for the use of EXCESSIVE force. AnotherMcIntosh Feb 2012 #139

What was the proper amount of force? nt Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #142

Obviously something less than shooting her in the back with a Taser. AnotherMcIntosh Feb 2012 #144

I think a shot to the ankle or through the shoulder blade would have sufficed. Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #146

You might qualify to be hired as a cop. Of course, he could have pretended that she was a donut and AnotherMcIntosh Feb 2012 #151

Given they were running out into a busy road, maybe we'd have one more dead cop and if lucky one Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #155

It's unlikely that the tasing of this girl improved traffic flow. AnotherMcIntosh Feb 2012 #162

Wonder it it would have been better if they were both cut down by a passing car. Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #163

As opposed to say shooting her in the back with the gun? I mean come on cstanleytech Feb 2012 #178

Excessive force is excessive force whether it is used on an innocent bystander or a felon. AnotherMcIntosh Feb 2012 #222

Actually, shooting her with a gun would seem to be more than shooting her with a taser. AnotherMcIntosh Feb 2012 #228

Her hand were not cuffed behind her SaintPete Feb 2012 #49

That was the only bad police procedure I saw in the video. tclambert Feb 2012 #224

I agree SaintPete Feb 2012 #232

He could have secondvariety Feb 2012 #237

Yes but would the republicans in congress really agree to have her handcuffed to them? cstanleytech Feb 2012 #267

You lose muscle control when you're tased. The Backlash Cometh Feb 2012 #66

did you see her body's reaction to Carolina Feb 2012 #275

No, the real cause was her trying to escape after being arrested. cstanleytech Feb 2012 #306

Agreed, appalling. discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #279

Yay, Cops! Iggo Feb 2012 #3

This is sad. Tripod Feb 2012 #6

"Taser is a good weapon." Leftist Agitator Feb 2012 #28

Yes it is, I want one. Tripod Feb 2012 #340

There really needs to be a re-education and/or re-evaluation of the type of people chosen as police. Old and In the Way Feb 2012 #7

Sounds more like they chose those with personality disorders. dipsydoodle Feb 2012 #18

Well, we know they weed out the ones who are too bright. Jackpine Radical Feb 2012 #41

A responsible police force tries to weed out the bullies and the trigger-happy from their recruits, tclambert Feb 2012 #19

"Responsible police department"? Scootaloo Feb 2012 #23

You know you're exaggerating. tclambert Feb 2012 #26

hmm... kenfrequed Feb 2012 #50

Sounds like the parents of the woman could have used parenting classes. Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #53

Well, I guess the punishment fit the crime, then. nt Old and In the Way Feb 2012 #58

Bad behavior all around qanda Feb 2012 #21

Civil Suit? nt avebury Feb 2012 #24

They've already lawyered up SaintPete Feb 2012 #51

I'd like to know what the hell she did... MrMickeysMom Feb 2012 #25

suspected hit-and-run Crabby Appleton Feb 2012 #36

Spam deleted by uppityperson (MIR Team) dfhjkyulyu Feb 2012 #29

Cops need to be taught that tasers are not a weapon of convenience. Vinca Feb 2012 #31

well said Locrian Feb 2012 #37

"weapon of compliance" kenfrequed Feb 2012 #54

Exactly. It would have been a simple matter for the officer to just throw his baton at her legs or Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #55

Does your post actually make sense to you? thedude333 Feb 2012 #70

Sometimes it's not worth using the sarcasm tag. Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #75

+1,000,000 Auggie Feb 2012 #59

Damn, that's just awful Art_from_Ark Feb 2012 #32

The sob that invented the taser should have one used on him frequently madokie Feb 2012 #33

They Did dwindham Feb 2012 #44

If he had run and tackled her, it may have ended the same way. Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #35

If a couple of cops tasered an out of control 5 year old girl, HockeyMom Feb 2012 #38

I am usuall quick to jump aboard the anti-LEO bandwagon Fastcars Feb 2012 #39

She ran straight out into the street TorchTheWitch Feb 2012 #118

The use of excessive force was not an accident. Under the law, adults of normal intelligence AnotherMcIntosh Feb 2012 #141

but it wasn't excessive SaintPete Feb 2012 #255

Obviously it was. AnotherMcIntosh Feb 2012 #256

It's not obvious at all SaintPete Feb 2012 #257

It is obvious to those who are perceptive. AnotherMcIntosh Feb 2012 #258

Did you read this article? skii Feb 2012 #42

"When does one have to finally take responsibility for their own actions?" KansDem Feb 2012 #57

the key word is "allegedly" noiretextatique Feb 2012 #161

Tasered woman now brain dead dwindham Feb 2012 #43

BASTARDS JJW Feb 2012 #47

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This won't win any popularity contests SaintPete Feb 2012 #48

This shows an incredible ignorance to what a taser does to the body. The Backlash Cometh Feb 2012 #71

Post removed Post removed Feb 2012 #73

This message was self-deleted by its author SaintPete Feb 2012 #86

You are way out of line with the insults. The Backlash Cometh Feb 2012 #88

I'm not at all glad she's in a coma SaintPete Feb 2012 #94

Except she wasn't attacking. You harmed yourself with that argument. The Backlash Cometh Feb 2012 #97

But she didn't get a bullet in the back did she? SaintPete Feb 2012 #99

You are using fear to advance your argument. It's not enough. The Backlash Cometh Feb 2012 #103

You think they let her run just to tase her? REALLY? SaintPete Feb 2012 #109

Yes, I absolutely do believe it's feasible. The Backlash Cometh Feb 2012 #127

"there should be an investigation to determine how she managed to slip away" cstanleytech Feb 2012 #182

As she escaped by running? polly7 Feb 2012 #100

I agree she should not have died, but she was attacking everyone SaintPete Feb 2012 #102

Your fear is clouding your judgment. The Backlash Cometh Feb 2012 #104

That takes the cake, right there SaintPete Feb 2012 #111

She wasn't driving anymore, she was running away. polly7 Feb 2012 #107

On drugs, looking for a way to escape SaintPete Feb 2012 #110

I can picture it. polly7 Feb 2012 #112

If she hadn't tried to escape SaintPete Feb 2012 #114

I don't care WHAT she did to get arrested for. polly7 Feb 2012 #115

Her crimes are not numbered to measure the value of her life SaintPete Feb 2012 #123

The most real expectation would be that a tased, handcuffed woman with polly7 Feb 2012 #125

Sorry, had a kneejerk reaction SaintPete Feb 2012 #90

No, it shows an accute understanding SaintPete Feb 2012 #83

There was no way she was going to get away. No possible way. Not handcuffed the way she was. The Backlash Cometh Feb 2012 #91

No the big question SaintPete Feb 2012 #98

Will never accept your reasoning, The Backlash Cometh Feb 2012 #101

Nice hyperbole. The cop's actions didn't deny society ANYTHING SaintPete Feb 2012 #106

The definition of justice should explain it all. The Backlash Cometh Feb 2012 #126

Right on, brother! Th1onein Feb 2012 #130

dear lord, tomorrow she'll be 80 pounds SaintPete Feb 2012 #133

No, it will be a blind nun who was saving 8 orphans from a burning bus. cstanleytech Feb 2012 #190

+1000 Dawson Leery Feb 2012 #148

she did not choose to be tasered....the cop chose to taser her noiretextatique Feb 2012 #154

He made an acceptable choice SaintPete Feb 2012 #180

Obviously, not. polly7 Feb 2012 #191

No, its not "obvious", its just tragic SaintPete Feb 2012 #201

Well gee ............. polly7 Feb 2012 #204

it was not an acceptable choice: it was a lazy choice noiretextatique Feb 2012 #240

taser lead to loss of physiologic Carolina Feb 2012 #278

My friend was tased on a sidewalk outside a bar. Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #281

How fragile life is. The Backlash Cometh Feb 2012 #60

Try not being a dumb ass and running from cops when you are under arrest. thedude333 Feb 2012 #67

Always JEB Feb 2012 #108

the cop needs to take personal responsibility too noiretextatique Feb 2012 #156

Of the two I think hers to try and escape was the worst though but cstanleytech Feb 2012 #193

i agree...she did make a poor choice noiretextatique Feb 2012 #242

Well she didnt even die because of the taser itself but rather when she fell she hit her head cstanleytech Feb 2012 #248

she died because shefell after he tasered her noiretextatique Feb 2012 #254

You forgot a part cstanleytech Feb 2012 #262

Alternative? ArtiChoke Feb 2012 #105

Another case of excessive force. discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #120

She was crashing cars into things. Multiple times. boppers Feb 2012 #216

I think the videos... discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #236

An impressive display of lazyness which basically resulted in someones death senorsquishy Feb 2012 #121

All you wingnut trolls defending the police GETPLANING Feb 2012 #122

thank you...and cops need to take responsibility for the choices they make noiretextatique Feb 2012 #158

She died because of a tragic accident SaintPete Feb 2012 #205

Saint Pete, holier than us GETPLANING Feb 2012 #261

He's dead SaintPete Feb 2012 #291

" too lazy to run a few steps" boppers Feb 2012 #218

What was he doing tasering someone in handcuffs? Th1onein Feb 2012 #128

She was running directly out into a busy road. nt Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #143

She was not, she was outside the police station. SunSeeker Feb 2012 #172

If she had not run, the cops would not have had to use ANY force to contain her SaintPete Feb 2012 #189

Protect and serve? ArtiChoke Feb 2012 #136

That's a great point. nt. polly7 Feb 2012 #150

I haven't heard how long it took from the moment of impact, The Backlash Cometh Feb 2012 #153

Having been young a long time ago Pakid Feb 2012 #147

If this country had the resources, we should assign one FBI agent to each Taser-carrying cop AnotherMcIntosh Feb 2012 #157

authoritarian types: capital punishment is not an "appropriate" form of arrest noiretextatique Feb 2012 #165

this was NOT capital punishment - this was an accident SaintPete Feb 2012 #183

He KNEW she'd drop uncontrollably to the CONCRETE once tased. SunSeeker Feb 2012 #200

Did he? Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #282

Thank you. You nailed it. SunSeeker Feb 2012 #184

authoritarian types noiretextatique Feb 2012 #239

You are right, blowing someones brains out with a pistol isnt appropriate cstanleytech Feb 2012 #195

Why do we still let police investigate police? radhika Feb 2012 #173

I'm still trying to figure out why we let politicians vote themselves raises cstanleytech Feb 2012 #197

She is at fault! NORTHERNBOYRULES Feb 2012 #188

She was out of it--he should have just grabbed her. SunSeeker Feb 2012 #203

Yeah, he did that on purpose SaintPete Feb 2012 #206

Yes, he did, and he knew she could crack her head. SunSeeker Feb 2012 #211

Not only is it Harrison's face SaintPete Feb 2012 #233

All you have to say is you've met the man, talked philosophy, shared food Dont call me Shirley Feb 2012 #246

What a BULLY COWARD that cop is, shooting an unarmed handcuffed young girl in the back. COWARD! Dont call me Shirley Feb 2012 #223

Two questions: hedgehog Feb 2012 #235

and Of COurse our Authoritarians are here to defend this fascisthunter Feb 2012 #238

That didn't take long SaintPete Feb 2012 #243

Not sure she can be called a "Lady" Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #284

No surprise there Hugabear Feb 2012 #296

right wing trolls fascisthunter Feb 2012 #352

This Thread is fucked up. NutmegYankee Feb 2012 #244

You do realize that part of the reason police departments issue tasers is precisely to stop fleeing cstanleytech Feb 2012 #250

Or LIHOP just to tase her SaintPete Feb 2012 #253

Which is it? SaintPete Feb 2012 #252

Some of these posters would be handing out the stones Hugabear Feb 2012 #297

This message was self-deleted by its author old man 76 Feb 2012 #247

"Lay down...Lay down!!!" KansDem Feb 2012 #249

Well, at least she didn't ESCAPE ! eppur_se_muova Feb 2012 #263

I don't know about that. discntnt_irny_srcsm Feb 2012 #277

We need to retrain our police.... midnight Feb 2012 #270

What about more progressive Police Officers? FrodosPet Feb 2012 #271

How about requiring a minimum degree of physical fitness? KansDem Feb 2012 #324

Lot of assumptions there about his fitness. cstanleytech Feb 2012 #344

I've read more than one report that put his weight at 267 pounds. KansDem Feb 2012 #349

His ability to sprint though doesnt matter. cstanleytech Feb 2012 #350

Cops learn holds and take-down moves... KansDem Feb 2012 #353

And if he had tackled her and she had head injuries and died would cstanleytech Feb 2012 #354

Depends on how he tackled her. KansDem Feb 2012 #356

There is no maybe the fact is they did screw or she wouldnt have been able to run for it. cstanleytech Feb 2012 #357

I've seen some gore in my time, some really bad stuff. That was bad. joshcryer Feb 2012 #283

This thread is disturbing Broderick Feb 2012 #314

No shit - sometimes you have to check and make sure you're still at DU... Hugabear Feb 2012 #329

Yep Broderick Feb 2012 #335

This thread IS disturbing Agony Feb 2012 #338

I resist that notion but feel it Broderick Feb 2012 #339

And I "could" have hit the lottery last night. cstanleytech Feb 2012 #345

Before we get all sad about the state of our society and how sick we are. Ash_F Feb 2012 #343

risk of death from taser= 0.02%; risk from hit and run=0.16% elias7 Feb 2012 #355

One-third of people shot by Taser need medical attention. SunSeeker Feb 2012 #358

And 100% of those who end up getting wounded with a gun need medical attention. cstanleytech Feb 2012 #359

He could have just grabbed her. Neither a gun nor taser was needed. SunSeeker Feb 2012 #360

Yes he might have and she could have decided not to try to escape also. cstanleytech Feb 2012 #361

So? Under these facts, taser use was excessive force. SunSeeker Feb 2012 #362

Actually her attempt did put his, hers and other lives in danger. cstanleytech Feb 2012 #363

Actually, the cop caused her death because he was lazy. SunSeeker Feb 2012 #364

Incorrect. cstanleytech Feb 2012 #365

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