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JackRiddler

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15. In that case, there was almost never a tyranny.
Tue Aug 20, 2013, 12:31 PM
Aug 2013

Guess what, they had lawyers in the Soviet Union, too. Modern tyrannies often maintain a facade of rule of law. There are also systems, like the United States, where rule of law still operates in many spheres while others have been exempted (examples of the latter include the "national security" state, "too big to fail" banks, "terrorism" and the drug war).

For example, when the NSA collects and stores every phone call and every e-mail and then lies to everyone about it including under oath, making a joke of this "constitution," it is still possible for blind supporters of authoritarianism (like yourself as long as the president is a "D&quot to claim that hey, it's all LEGAL. They passed laws and made interpretations that make it so. Hooray!

Tyranny is an arbitrary power that gets to mock mere laws and lawyers and due process and all the bullshit you are also laughing at.

Fine work for the team!

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This intrigues me. Autumn Aug 2013 #1
I think the horse has already left that barn. MADem Aug 2013 #2
But if they can get a positive outcome from the courts it will be a moral victory and totodeinhere Aug 2013 #10
Good luck with that, is all I have to say. MADem Aug 2013 #12
Yeah, Gwendolen--let us know what answers you get. nt msanthrope Aug 2013 #3
Yay, let's be sarcastic about tyranny! JackRiddler Aug 2013 #6
If it was tyranny, there would be no lawyer to mock. msanthrope Aug 2013 #9
In that case, there was almost never a tyranny. JackRiddler Aug 2013 #15
While they probably have inspected the data FarrenH Aug 2013 #4
Miranda's encrypted data will never be "cracked". wtmusic Aug 2013 #5
Fair enough FarrenH Aug 2013 #19
Snowden is using AES-256 wtmusic Aug 2013 #20
"I have many documents about England's espionage system" - G. Greenwald struggle4progress Aug 2013 #7
"... Mr. Miranda was in Berlin to deliver documents related to Mr. Greenwald’s investigation struggle4progress Aug 2013 #8
"Snowden writer's partner....?" mike_c Aug 2013 #11
" What a ridiculous headline" - well ya gotta admit ConcernedCanuk Aug 2013 #18
Snowden is far more widely known than Greenwald muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #21
yep, I understand... mike_c Aug 2013 #22
No, I don't think you do understand muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #23
Maybe Too Late hinterlandg Aug 2013 #13
Of course they know. JackRiddler Aug 2013 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author KittyWampus Aug 2013 #14
DO IT TODAY! The Stranger Aug 2013 #17
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