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KansDem

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97. The voice of reason for Teabaggers...

Tue Aug 20, 2013, 02:02 PM

Aug 2013

Look, I didn't come up with the "show us the birth certificate" horseshit. That was the TeaBaggers and the politicians who enabled them. This whole sordid chapter in our country's history could have been avoided if reason and logic had trumped stupid-ass horseshit.

So, now we have Cruz, who benefited from Tea Bagger hysteria, in the same situation as Obama. And the Tea Baggers want "reason and logic?"

But the upshot is that if your friend believes Barack Obama was born in Kenya, then the question devolves to whether Ann Dunham satisfied the then-current US residency length requirement. There is no "if/then" question about this. There is no reason for discussion. The "upshot" is my co-worker is an ignorant Tea Bagger...

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Cruz will renounce Canadian citizenship [View all] Tx4obama Aug 2013 OP

Lucky Canada! NoPasaran Aug 2013 #1

delusional. Garion_55 Aug 2013 #2

This is like renouncing your birth certificate! Coyotl Aug 2013 #21

A link below to a copy of a certificate that says he was BORN in Calgary Canada Tx4obama Aug 2013 #3

Rafael GreatCaesarsGhost Aug 2013 #18

Rafael? Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #94

I won't believe it until he shows me the original long form birth certificate. A Simple Game Aug 2013 #105

Constitution and the Presidency kelliekat44 Aug 2013 #117

Where's the long form TED? Historic NY Aug 2013 #4

A link to a copy of the Canadian birth certificate in Comment #3 Tx4obama Aug 2013 #5

Where is the announcement in the paper? It could be the woman listed as his mother is not his Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #26

You know, that was the biggest thing for me when the "questions" came up 7962 Aug 2013 #103

Perhaps your maturity has prevented you from seeing birth announcements, it was the norm Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #115

Oh, I got your point! So youre saying that it was fairly normal in your area for a birth 7962 Aug 2013 #118

You missed, the information was gathered at the hospitals where the child was born, it had the Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #120

This whole topic is just plain stupid. Jenoch Aug 2013 #6

There is a difference between being just a 'citizen' and a 'natural born citizen' Tx4obama Aug 2013 #9

According to U.S. law, Jenoch Aug 2013 #22

Actually, no... DissidentVoice Aug 2013 #28

Please identify the statute you are citing jberryhill Aug 2013 #34

His parents had to fill out a CRBA blackspade Aug 2013 #60

That's not a naturalization process jberryhill Aug 2013 #61

Is that your opinion, or can you cite the relevant statute? blackspade Aug 2013 #63

Yes, I can - 8 USC § 1401 jberryhill Aug 2013 #70

Cool, thanks! blackspade Aug 2013 #78

Sorry, I thought you were being snarky jberryhill Aug 2013 #79

No problem. blackspade Aug 2013 #82

He's right, our daughter was born in England in 1995. In addition to her British Birth 24601 Aug 2013 #107

jus sanguinis citizens are natural-born, for purposes of qualifying to run for U.S. President... Humanist_Activist Aug 2013 #45

Nonsense - 8 USC § 1401(g) jberryhill Aug 2013 #71

I believe DissidentVoice is correct.... sdfernando Aug 2013 #96

Did you also have a German birth certificate? NT DissidentVoice Aug 2013 #104

When were you born? Jenoch Aug 2013 #116

I was born in 1961 /nt sdfernando Aug 2013 #125

I think the Jenoch Aug 2013 #126

BTW both my parents are natural born US citizens /NT sdfernando Aug 2013 #129

It's slightly more complicated than that. See my long post below. NT Nay Aug 2013 #24

This message was self-deleted by its author roamer65 Aug 2013 #113

agreed... awoke_in_2003 Aug 2013 #119

the mother has to have resided in the US for a certain period of time though treestar Aug 2013 #132

LOL! Politicalboi Aug 2013 #7

Too bad Cryptoad Aug 2013 #8

Ummm... Adam-Bomb Aug 2013 #10

I guess you missed the news when the same issue came up regarding John McCain Tx4obama Aug 2013 #11

No, there was no "decision" to that effect jberryhill Aug 2013 #35

Let me be more clear... Tx4obama Aug 2013 #39

"it was said" jberryhill Aug 2013 #41

I'll have to disagree with you on this one Tx4obama Aug 2013 #43

That doesn't render the outcome to be some great mystery jberryhill Aug 2013 #66

The Official Sayers Of it. Iggo Aug 2013 #85

They are appointed by the They Institute jberryhill Aug 2013 #86

I thought you had to be born in the US or in a US territory doc03 Aug 2013 #30

has nothing to do with being a Birther PatrynXX Aug 2013 #33

Not so sure of that Alameda Aug 2013 #48

As a Canadian, here's how I see it. OnlinePoker Aug 2013 #62

Let me see if I get this straight cabot Aug 2013 #12

"Nothing good comes from Alberta. Nothing. Ever." alcina Aug 2013 #16

That IS exactly the difference. cough *black* cough. Won´t get the idiots to admit that though. SammyWinstonJack Aug 2013 #68

Except me! rationalcalgarian Aug 2013 #91

Obama was born in Hawaii - but that didn't stop the birthers from filing OVER 200 lawsuits Tx4obama Aug 2013 #13

Why is Orly Taitz quiet on this one? SummerSnow Aug 2013 #14

Maybe Oily Taint helped him illegally enter the USA... freshwest Aug 2013 #20

IOKIYAR Jamaal510 Aug 2013 #83

No Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #95

Maybe we can pursuade him to renounce US citizenship. Historic NY Aug 2013 #15

Maybe we can persuade him to move back to Canada. Left Coast2020 Aug 2013 #42

Canada has set up border guards to keep him from getting back in rpannier Aug 2013 #46

And Canada does a happy dance. Mz Pip Aug 2013 #17

I distinctly remember.... AnneD Aug 2013 #99

Canadian Cuban-American Ted Cruz will always be that Canadian-born quitter. Pull a Palin, quit! Coyotl Aug 2013 #19

Here are some Canadian/US rules that would apply to Cruz: Nay Aug 2013 #23

I don't have a link, Jenoch Aug 2013 #40

We could ask Canada to take him back davidpdx Aug 2013 #25

What and set off an international incident rpannier Aug 2013 #47

True, but we did take Celine Dion off their hands davidpdx Aug 2013 #49

And Justin Bieber. OnlinePoker Aug 2013 #84

YELL IT EVERYWHERE!!! SoLeftIAmRight Aug 2013 #27

He is also a citizen of the Commonwealth DissidentVoice Aug 2013 #29

LOL. Good point. What will those tri-corner hat tea baggers do about that tory traitor? nt SunSeeker Aug 2013 #37

a natural born American only PatrynXX Aug 2013 #31

Now Obama needs to renounce his Kenyan citizenship itsrobert Aug 2013 #32

Oh the irony. The birthers' candidate was shamed into renouncing his foreign citizenship. SunSeeker Aug 2013 #36

The birthers are taking the line that Obama has made the exception the rule. Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2013 #50

Oh the irony. thecrow Aug 2013 #130

That'll teach those socialists! JohnnyRingo Aug 2013 #38

Well that's good news for Canada! ConcernedCanuk Aug 2013 #44

Cruz was born in the Jesusland Confederacy and can be Prez of that. Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2013 #51

Maybe the baggers are right after all Snake Plissken Aug 2013 #52

Here's Cruz' Passport photo TexasProgresive Aug 2013 #53

I read... AnneD Aug 2013 #100

Yup Citizen Cruz is going to run for President in 2016 bucolic_frolic Aug 2013 #54

I think that you're right. Beacool Aug 2013 #69

I question the legitimacy of him being born on this planet! kentauros Aug 2013 #55

Entertaining choice quotes from some Birthers and RWingnuts Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2013 #56

Who is ¨Soetero¨? SammyWinstonJack Aug 2013 #72

I speak Birfer! jberryhill Aug 2013 #74

Obama's mother married Mr. Soetero and they lived in Indonesia while Obama was a child Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2013 #77

What I love about the St. Francis "enrollment" page jberryhill Aug 2013 #80

Nice catch! . nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2013 #81

the tea bagger morons are twisting themselves into new shapes to explain this. Javaman Aug 2013 #57

I think he's a 'natural born' Cuban! His father fought for Castro. sinkingfeeling Aug 2013 #58

He very well could be an American citizen if the proper paperwork was filled out. blackspade Aug 2013 #59

So Cruz is an anti-immigrant immigrant? KansDem Aug 2013 #64

He is not an immigrant jberryhill Aug 2013 #73

So was Obama! KansDem Aug 2013 #75

It came up with Goldwater too jberryhill Aug 2013 #76

How is this "dumb?" KansDem Aug 2013 #87

Playing stupid with stupid is not a good idea either jberryhill Aug 2013 #88

Again, how is this "dumb" or "stupid?" KansDem Aug 2013 #89

Then I suggest you inform yourself before calling your friend a hypocrite jberryhill Aug 2013 #92

The voice of reason for Teabaggers... KansDem Aug 2013 #97

"The "upshot" is my co-worker is an ignorant Tea Bagger..." jberryhill Aug 2013 #98

No, it is NOT the same situation as Obama. Obama was born in the US of a citizen mother. kelliekat44 Aug 2013 #122

You are correct... KansDem Aug 2013 #127

I, for one, would like to see his Long Form US Birth Certificate. nt NorthCarolina Aug 2013 #65

Not a natural born citizen... should actually be disqualified for Prez JCMach1 Aug 2013 #67

What does renouncing his Canadian citizenship actually achieve? SwissTony Aug 2013 #90

in his case, validating his loyalty to the USA. mwooldri Aug 2013 #108

I'm an Australian born in Scotland and live in Holland. SwissTony Aug 2013 #109

Wouldn't you simply trade your British passport for a Scottish one? KamaAina Aug 2013 #111

That would be the rational approach. SwissTony Aug 2013 #114

Yup, splitting up the UK will be a mess. mwooldri Aug 2013 #124

Scoring points with his base, pretty much. Posteritatis Aug 2013 #110

hahahaha Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #93

So what Cruz is saying is he is a Cuban by birth, who happened to be born in Canada Snake Plissken Aug 2013 #101

By Cruz..Canada does not give a hoot. riverbendviewgal Aug 2013 #102

Looks like he's still a hoser for at least eight more months KamaAina Aug 2013 #106

Not exactly gejohnston Aug 2013 #112

What happened? Did Canada renounce him first? gopiscrap Aug 2013 #121

Is Ted Cruz a Terror Baby? juxtaposed Aug 2013 #123

A little article from THE HILL on Cruz riverbendviewgal Aug 2013 #128

I wouldn't think he has to treestar Aug 2013 #131