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108. Yes, whether against pro-democracy marchers or Egyptian Christians, it is wrong.

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Thu Aug 22, 2013, 07:04 AM

Aug 2013

Violence only leads to more violence.

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Egypt: Islamists hit Christian churches [View all] question everything Aug 2013 OP

And in other news...how many innocent people were killed in that mosque? nt kelliekat44 Aug 2013 #1

Too many! My neighbors who are in Egypt said their Church has been desecrated and Copts hrmjustin Aug 2013 #3

The similarities are amazing. jessie04 Aug 2013 #2

Last week's violence was the tipping point. fujiyama Aug 2013 #4

The Copts have been getting the dirty end of the stick for a long time. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #5

Well, they would have been ok except ... jessie04 Aug 2013 #8

Well, at least they had a playbook to go by. jessie04 Aug 2013 #51

This article seems aimed toward fomenting (or apologizing for) a civil war delrem Aug 2013 #6

The reality is that it is happening that way. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #9

The *reality* is that the military staged a COUP delrem Aug 2013 #20

That is true but let us not forget that there was a reason a majority of the nation supported the hrmjustin Aug 2013 #22

"a majority of the nation supported the coup" delrem Aug 2013 #23

Ok maybe I am not in a position to make that claim but you have to admit a large portion hrmjustin Aug 2013 #26

No. delrem Aug 2013 #31

I am not saying I support the coup but I understand it. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #34

The Egyptian military could give a flying fart about "democracy" and "inclusiveness". delrem Aug 2013 #71

I think most westerners thought that a majority of people were for the coup in Egypt and it hrmjustin Aug 2013 #72

I've been part of demonstrations numbering in the 100's of 1,000's. delrem Aug 2013 #73

I do not know how a coup can be peaceful, but people here thought it would be. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #74

delrem its not that black and white FarrenH Aug 2013 #58

A military coup is about as 'black and white' as you can get. delrem Aug 2013 #70

Not in terms of the value judgements you're making FarrenH Aug 2013 #75

You already had lost me before you suggested that I "huff and puff". delrem Aug 2013 #85

How is that a rational response? FarrenH Aug 2013 #91

First I "huff and puff". Now I'm irrational. delrem Aug 2013 #92

Indeed FarrenH Aug 2013 #93

And now I'm supposed to *satisfy* you? delrem Aug 2013 #94

Fair enough FarrenH Aug 2013 #106

Technically inaccurate telclaven Aug 2013 #77

True. And a plurality is NOT a majority. burnsei sensei Aug 2013 #83

Oh, I apologize telclaven Aug 2013 #90

Your math is fine but you did not read m statement. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #84

In the first round of elections, something like forty percent of eligible voters turned out. MADem Aug 2013 #102

Agree! get the red out Aug 2013 #78

No, the military staged a revolution, supported by three fourths of the population--or more. MADem Aug 2013 #101

No, the truth is that Islamicists are attacking Christians VirginiaTarheel Aug 2013 #10

That's what happens when Fascists stage a coup and people support them. another_liberal Aug 2013 #16

The Copts would not support the MB because they are responsible for murdering Copts. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #19

I wasn't suggesting they had no reason to oppose Morsi. another_liberal Aug 2013 #63

The MB would have gone after them whether they supported to coup or not. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #65

You know that for a fact? another_liberal Aug 2013 #66

Because when they were in power they were doing it already. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #67

Do you have proof it was the Muslim Brotherhood's official policy? another_liberal Aug 2013 #68

forgive me my friend I was not clear. What I mean is that Copts have been oppressed by hrmjustin Aug 2013 #69

Your posts are sickening tabasco Aug 2013 #59

I'm fascinated and I want to learn more! another_liberal Aug 2013 #62

Blaming the victims of religious leftynyc Aug 2013 #76

Great post get the red out Aug 2013 #79

Finding out that what you believed to be the one and only truth is really a lie? another_liberal Aug 2013 #80

I have no idea leftynyc Aug 2013 #81

Ignorance is bliss . . . another_liberal Aug 2013 #82

More babbling leftynyc Aug 2013 #87

Seems rather odd . . . another_liberal Aug 2013 #88

Holy fucking hell NutmegYankee Aug 2013 #86

There are victims on both sides . . . another_liberal Aug 2013 #89

Religious Biases? The Muslim Brotherhood did not respect the civil right or Christians or religious hrmjustin Aug 2013 #96

Right, Virginia . . . another_liberal Aug 2013 #97

Do you not like the Copts? Do they deserve what they are getting? hrmjustin Aug 2013 #98

No one deserves to have their houses of worship burned down, of course not. another_liberal Aug 2013 #99

What Christian thugs? I am not aware of what you speak of. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #100

There have been numerous reports of Christians attacking anti-coup marchers. another_liberal Aug 2013 #105

I have heard no reports of this. Violence is wrong. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #107

Yes, whether against pro-democracy marchers or Egyptian Christians, it is wrong. another_liberal Aug 2013 #108

Islam vs Christian. GENOCIDE!!!! Thanks, Virginia. delrem Aug 2013 #25

More like the MB against the Copts. It is very sad. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #27

I'm sure you think it's "very sad", hrmjustin. delrem Aug 2013 #32

This message was self-deleted by its author hrmjustin Aug 2013 #37

I am saddened by violence. I am a Christian, I do not believe in violence. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #39

I understand what you mean about the article here. It does make it seem like all Muslims are out to hrmjustin Aug 2013 #43

No shit. delrem Aug 2013 #44

Ok point taken. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #46

No it does not, all you have to do is read the whole article. Leontius Aug 2013 #64

Since its wrong to call them Islamists or terrorists... jessie04 Aug 2013 #7

Religion Is Evil 1ProudAtheist Aug 2013 #11

I have to disagree. I am a Christian and I don't feel it is evil. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #12

Of Course Not 1ProudAtheist Aug 2013 #14

Ok hrmjustin Aug 2013 #18

People Everywhere 1ProudAtheist Aug 2013 #33

I can not deny the fact that people have done evil in the name of religion. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #38

I can add that people have done truly horrible things in the name of atheism. n/t Igel Aug 2013 #50

Really? MellowDem Aug 2013 #61

The Tibetan Monks will be happy to hear this. jessie04 Aug 2013 #13

Buddhism 1ProudAtheist Aug 2013 #15

really? so as a religious person i'm evil? madrchsod Aug 2013 #28

No 1ProudAtheist Aug 2013 #35

Have you thought about being a Deacon for the Atheist Church? nt onehandle Aug 2013 #29

Atheism 1ProudAtheist Aug 2013 #36

Yeah, especially Wicca. Pterodactyl Aug 2013 #104

Mixing religion and politics creates evil bhikkhu Aug 2013 #17

I keep hearing that. I don't think you mean what you think. Igel Aug 2013 #53

Well, that certainly seems counter-productive Scootaloo Aug 2013 #21

Tell us are we supposed to translate "Islamists" to Morsi supporters? azurnoir Aug 2013 #24

That is a great question. If the leadership of the Copts stood with the Military then the military hrmjustin Aug 2013 #30

okay however reread the opening of the OP azurnoir Aug 2013 #40

Yes I can see what you mean now. The words were poorly chosen. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #41

well kind of but not so much azurnoir Aug 2013 #42

Skepticism is not a bad thing. The story could have been embellished. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #45

That's the problem I have. Igel Aug 2013 #54

GOD BLESS EVERYONE! Rebellious Republican Aug 2013 #47

Bless everyone. There is no god/goddess/gods. nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2013 #48

Recommended this thread because it is a problem that deserves notice (not something I like). nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2013 #49

Story is a Plant by Our Govt. to Get US Citizens on the Side of the Army School Teacher Aug 2013 #52

Thank you for the "deplore". jessie04 Aug 2013 #55

If it is true, it's not a plant. At most it might be a push. nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2013 #60

And here some of the results of the Coptic "Kristalnacht" jessie04 Aug 2013 #56

You're a pro at this. Robotic, yes, but a pro nonetheless. delrem Aug 2013 #103

MB shows true colors again Devil Child Aug 2013 #57

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2013 #95