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Thu Aug 22, 2013, 07:28 PM

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Army: We won't provide transgender Manning with hormone treatment or sex reassignment surgery [View all] Freddie Stubbs Aug 2013 OP

That is disgusting Transphobic discrimination at its worst. jessie04 Aug 2013 #1

If I were Chelsea MynameisBlarney Aug 2013 #3

Read the article. delta17 Aug 2013 #39

Never been needed before . jessie04 Aug 2013 #45

You really think Manning is the first to request this? RZM Aug 2013 #49

When you're in prison, you don't get to do what you want. MjolnirTime Aug 2013 #52

Has anyone ever labelled you an ignorant bigot? If not, please allow me to be the first. You HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #53

It's sad that you view everything through the lens of sexuality. MjolnirTime Aug 2013 #54

Your post reeks of the attitude that gender dysphoria is some sort HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #55

It is not an illness. The surgery is, in fact, elective. That is why the prison will not provide it. MjolnirTime Aug 2013 #56

I have no trouble at all discerning bigotry when it shows its ugly face. Too HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #57

The more posts I reply to, the worse you look. You've said nothing but "bigot". MjolnirTime Aug 2013 #58

A jury bounced you on Trumad's thread for your bigotry. Keep it up and maybe a jury will do the HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #64

wow. just shut your mouth, you're coming off as stupid (quoted from Step Brothers) GalaxyHunter Aug 2013 #74

AMA and NIMH deem HRT and sexual reassignment surgery medically necessary Evasporque Aug 2013 #92

Massachusetts did... Bully Taw Aug 2013 #67

i have a hard time seeing that statement... Bully Taw Aug 2013 #68

So we shouldn't treat prisoners with broken legs? MillennialDem Aug 2013 #85

If she had cancer, they'd pay for the treatment. alarimer Aug 2013 #93

I'd say that job one ought to be... Orsino Aug 2013 #63

I was going to say Kelvin Mace Aug 2013 #2

I hope not Niceguy1 Aug 2013 #9

he can do whatever he wants in prison.... Bully Taw Aug 2013 #13

She - not he FreeState Aug 2013 #23

ok, she... Bully Taw Aug 2013 #61

SHE Vanje Aug 2013 #25

good enough, then Bully Taw Aug 2013 #60

It's SHE, not HE. You are talking about a woman, use proper pronouns. idwiyo Aug 2013 #36

my apologies... Bully Taw Aug 2013 #59

Please, have a look at the article below. It will explain why 'anatomicaly male/female' doesn't idwiyo Aug 2013 #62

whether it makes sense or not... Bully Taw Aug 2013 #66

The article is about genetics (and anatomy) but it doesn't really matter. Chelsea is a woman, no idwiyo Aug 2013 #69

I'm cool with that. n/t Bully Taw Aug 2013 #70

There will be many things that Private Manning cannot do in prison that have nothing to do with 24601 Aug 2013 #83

Does the military provide it JustAnotherGen Aug 2013 #4

My understanding is that Manning will be dishonorably discharged after he serves his sentence. branford Aug 2013 #5

So does the US Military JustAnotherGen Aug 2013 #6

The Army does not permit transgendered individuals to serve at all frazzled Aug 2013 #10

I'm feeling the same way JustAnotherGen Aug 2013 #11

No situational ethics, indeed frazzled Aug 2013 #20

Probably not able to take them while incarcerated. Revanchist Aug 2013 #76

She Vanje Aug 2013 #26

Sorry, force of habit after a VERY long trial and surrounding saga. branford Aug 2013 #28

According to poster CBGLuthier, you should have switched right away! GalaxyHunter Aug 2013 #75

Heh. Demands for semantic purity will make enemies out of allies. branford Aug 2013 #80

I completely agree. GalaxyHunter Aug 2013 #86

The problem I'm having christx30 Aug 2013 #87

Ironically, you support Manning, yet may be attacked for your post. branford Aug 2013 #88

The use of the pronoun thing christx30 Aug 2013 #89

If this is what Manning really wants, then it's time to make a deal with the feds. nt msanthrope Aug 2013 #7

I heard an AP report and the commentary afterwards Ilsa Aug 2013 #8

That's what I thought treestar Aug 2013 #34

what if others give or raise money for this ? would they allow her to get the surgery JI7 Aug 2013 #12

I certainly do not mean to be snarky, but the Army will determine what Manning "needs." branford Aug 2013 #16

This message was self-deleted by its author kestrel91316 Aug 2013 #14

I would strongly recommend editing/self-deleting geek tragedy Aug 2013 #15

Although the comment could have been stated more diplomatically, branford Aug 2013 #17

Where did you get your MD? sgsmith Aug 2013 #18

Liberty U. JackBeck Aug 2013 #19

Apply ice to the burn! backscatter712 Aug 2013 #29

Incarceration under military custody is not always comparable to the civilian system. branford Aug 2013 #21

Thank you. Maedhros Aug 2013 #22

+ 1000 jessie04 Aug 2013 #33

Benghazi! DainBramaged Aug 2013 #43

You might want to educate yourself a little FreeState Aug 2013 #24

I removed my post. It upset some people, but I believe that to be completely unjustified. kestrel91316 Aug 2013 #27

The issues surrounding Manning are extremely emotional. branford Aug 2013 #30

Careful. Talk like that will get you targeted as an enemy, too. kestrel91316 Aug 2013 #32

I try very hard to be diplomatic! branford Aug 2013 #35

That is an incredibly childish attitude. Jamastiene Aug 2013 #48

But those who would presume to educate too often act as if Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2013 #71

In other words, grovel for it. n/t Jamastiene Aug 2013 #78

Do you really believe that it is better to accuse others of ignorance branford Aug 2013 #81

Never. I'm at a loss to understand how you came to that conclusion. Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2013 #82

The comment I heard after an AP report Ilsa Aug 2013 #31

Do you know if the military has ever provided hormone therapy in the past? branford Aug 2013 #38

Move to Discharge too fast for it to be an issue. One_Life_To_Give Aug 2013 #72

The roadblock is the actual transfer from the Army to the BOP. n/t branford Aug 2013 #73

Arseholes. Nice to know that US military openly denies treatment for genetic medical condition. idwiyo Aug 2013 #37

Manning's attorneys might share some of the blame. branford Aug 2013 #40

Frankly I don't give a shit. Gender identity disorder is a genetic medical condition and must be idwiyo Aug 2013 #42

Whoa, idwiyo, you're shooting the messenger. branford Aug 2013 #44

It was not directed at you. Just my opinion about scum who would refuse medical treatment. Why idwiyo Aug 2013 #46

Unfortunately, the "why" really does matter. branford Aug 2013 #47

Jeralyn Merritt, at TalkLeft, has an informative comment about possible treatment for Manning. branford Aug 2013 #41

Remember, if something is issued by the US Government, it is NOT subject to Copywrite happyslug Aug 2013 #50

As far as I can tell, Manning is still in the Army.... wercal Aug 2013 #51

Well, there's a load off my mind! Doctor_J Aug 2013 #65

Anybody here ever do military time? billyoc Aug 2013 #77

1,214 days underpants Aug 2013 #79

I think he means military PRISON time. There's a difference. jmowreader Aug 2013 #84

If Manning enlisted and denied that he had gender issues... NaturalHigh Aug 2013 #90

Here's where it gets complex jmowreader Aug 2013 #91