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bemildred

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Fri Aug 23, 2013, 09:54 AM Aug 2013

Snowden: UK government now leaking documents about itself [View all]

Source: Guardian.UK

The Independent this morning published an article - which it repeatedly claims comes from "documents obtained from the NSA by Edward Snowden" - disclosing that "Britain runs a secret internet-monitoring station in the Middle East to intercept and process vast quantities of emails, telephone calls and web traffic on behalf of Western intelligence agencies." This is the first time the Independent has published any revelations purportedly from the NSA documents, and it's the type of disclosure which journalists working directly with NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden have thus far avoided.

That leads to the obvious question: who is the source for this disclosure? Snowden this morning said he wants it to be clear that he was not the source for the Independent, stating:


I have never spoken with, worked with, or provided any journalistic materials to the Independent. The journalists I have worked with have, at my request, been judicious and careful in ensuring that the only things disclosed are what the public should know but that does not place any person in danger. People at all levels of society up to and including the President of the United States have recognized the contribution of these careful disclosures to a necessary public debate, and we are proud of this record.

"It appears that the UK government is now seeking to create an appearance that the Guardian and Washington Post's disclosures are harmful, and they are doing so by intentionally leaking harmful information to The Independent and attributing it to others. The UK government should explain the reasoning behind this decision to disclose information that, were it released by a private citizen, they would argue is a criminal act."


Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/aug/23/uk-government-independent-military-base
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LoL!!!!!!!! railsback Aug 2013 #1
This is getting to be amusing. nt bemildred Aug 2013 #2
How about relying on some facts? blackspade Aug 2013 #7
In what ways is this dangeours? Helen Borg Aug 2013 #3
Interesting questions. blackspade Aug 2013 #4
Like a smashed up Macbook.. railsback Aug 2013 #5
And your point is what? blackspade Aug 2013 #11
Seems to be sticking.. railsback Aug 2013 #15
It never says it has them. See my post #6. Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #9
I saw that, thanks for the clarification. blackspade Aug 2013 #13
To make it look like the materials are dangerous in the hands of the press. Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #16
If you read the independent article. Jesus Malverde Aug 2013 #27
Maybe from someone in China...Snowden was interviewed by a reporter MADem Aug 2013 #30
Even the Independent never claims it received these docs from Snowden. Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #6
Snowden's materials cover both NSA and GCHQ Ghost Dog Aug 2013 #22
+1 Jesus Malverde Aug 2013 #28
Downloaded in 2012? So he's been "bringing in the sheaves" for a LONG time, now. nt MADem Aug 2013 #31
He has admitted as such. Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #33
Wouldn't put these contortions past any PTB. tblue Aug 2013 #8
Keep beating the dead horse, Glenn. Apparently, they'll keep paying you. MjolnirTime Aug 2013 #10
The public has lost so much interest that other organizations have decided that they want.... blackspade Aug 2013 #14
show me any results for all the poutrage. MjolnirTime Aug 2013 #19
Just like 80%+ of the country wanted background checks for firearms? blackspade Aug 2013 #20
It's only been two and a half months since the revelations began. deurbano Aug 2013 #25
Um... Not Really... WillyT Aug 2013 #18
K & R !!! WillyT Aug 2013 #12
Snowden does not deny he stole these docs from the NSA. SunSeeker Aug 2013 #17
Because they were included in a dataset most likely. Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #21
Are you saying he didn't mean to steal them? What do you base that on? SunSeeker Aug 2013 #32
Because that's how the NSA trained Snowden to handle iemitsu Aug 2013 #36
The NSA did not train him to steal from them. nt SunSeeker Aug 2013 #39
No, they trained him to steal from us, iemitsu Aug 2013 #40
No, the NSA's mistake was hiring a right wing nut bag with an agenda.. SunSeeker Aug 2013 #41
No one should get a security clearance to snoop on everything we say iemitsu Aug 2013 #43
GCHQ spies on US. think4yourself Aug 2013 #24
Did Snowden/GG assert THIS mideast UK surveillance program spies on US? SunSeeker Aug 2013 #34
Here's one. think4yourself Aug 2013 #35
That link is 2 months old, doesn't quote Snowden/GG nor discuss THIS program. SunSeeker Aug 2013 #37
see comments on kpete's 9:29 a.m. OP on the same topic... nenagh Aug 2013 #23
The Independent has no credibility left Ocelot Aug 2013 #26
Sums it up nicely....nt Jesus Malverde Aug 2013 #29
Shut the fuck up, Little Eddie. SoapBox Aug 2013 #38
Are you having a sad, or are you having a flashback to 1955? DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2013 #42
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