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branford

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34. The fact that you keep on repeating it, doesn't make it true!
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 06:23 PM
Aug 2013

Other than your belief, what is your evidence that he either lacked the ability to participate in his own defense, that he did not appreciate the nature of his conduct or the proceedings, or that he did not understand that his actions were illegal.

Having strong religious beliefs, thinking that your conduct is justified, representing yourself, proffering a lousy defense, or just plain idiocy, are rights guaranteed by the Constitution, not prima facie evidence of sufficient mental illness to absolve Hassan of criminal liability. Hassan was evaluated by doctors, provided more than sufficient due process, proudly admitted his conduct in support of his honestly held religious beliefs, and duly convicted by a jury of his peers. He will also be allowed to appeal both his conviction and any sentence he receives.

Additionally, a desire to see a criminal punished is not "bloodthirst," it is justice. Are you are really claiming that society does not have the right to punish a multiple murderer? Hassan will be given a sentence as dictated by the law. He will be able to appeal that sentence. He will not be tortured (as defined by the law, not you), his dietary, medical and religious needs will be met and accommodated, proper security measures will be instituted in accordance with the threat he poses, and he will have access to an attorney to remedy any issues while incarcerated (or prior to his execution).

You may have sympathy for Hassan. However, others, including myself, do not share your concern for a convicted murderer. I believe that he is entitled to due process and protection from cruel and unusual punishment. I've seen absolutely nothing that raises any issues, and he will be able to appeal to multiple courts. That is precisely where my concern ends. Whether he sits in a small cell for the rest of his natural life or receives a needle in his arm, the only one Hassan can blame for his situation is himself.

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I think this is what he wanted. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Aug 2013 #1
Yes, indeed... I think it was a foregone conclusion that he'd be found guilty & likely be executed. hlthe2b Aug 2013 #3
Glad to hear the verdict shenmue Aug 2013 #2
I don't want him executed atreides1 Aug 2013 #4
Yup with you there ... I understand supermax prisons are nice this time of year. nt littlewolf Aug 2013 #10
+1 JustAnotherGen Aug 2013 #26
Supermax, solitary confinement, for life nt Dreamer Tatum Aug 2013 #5
Hasan should be lucky that the toughest prison we have is ADX Florence derby378 Aug 2013 #30
He's in the Army and convicted by a Courts Martial. He should be going to the Military Disciplinary 24601 Aug 2013 #37
I want the judge to give him life leftynyc Aug 2013 #6
i hope he gets the treatment he needs... Bully Taw Aug 2013 #7
Oh my .... oldhippie Aug 2013 #8
compassion is what makes us human... Bully Taw Aug 2013 #9
Animals. GalaxyHunter Aug 2013 #23
Oh please tell me you're being sarcastic. 7962 Aug 2013 #12
people don't make themselves criminals... Bully Taw Aug 2013 #14
You think you're rather clever, but I doubt you're fooling anyone nt geek tragedy Aug 2013 #16
Stop it! I cant laugh anymore. My stomach aches. 7962 Aug 2013 #19
So, what's your CC handle? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Aug 2013 #41
I don't think he needs christx30 Aug 2013 #13
it is hard to forgive those that hurt us Bully Taw Aug 2013 #15
This isn't about forgiveness. christx30 Aug 2013 #17
i was kinda on board with your statement, but... Bully Taw Aug 2013 #18
I don't see it as vengeance, but rather a balancing of the karmic checkbook derby378 Aug 2013 #31
I'm not talking about death. christx30 Aug 2013 #33
Do you have any evidence that Hassan could not differentiate between right and wrong, branford Aug 2013 #21
It's pretty idiotic to ask a poster "do you have any evidence" as if he/she is counsel on the case. The Stranger Aug 2013 #25
I believe it is very fair to ask what evidence the poster possesses, branford Aug 2013 #32
Then, instead of asking another poster what "evidence [they] have he could not differentiate The Stranger Aug 2013 #39
Amazing, reading the bloodthirst on this thread, purportedly coming from "Progressives" The Stranger Aug 2013 #22
The fact that you keep on repeating it, doesn't make it true! branford Aug 2013 #34
Scuttling your own defense in order to ensure the worst penalty IS EVIDENCE of his condition. The Stranger Aug 2013 #38
His defense was "justification." branford Aug 2013 #42
You implied that there was no evidence of his insanity. The Stranger Aug 2013 #44
I most certainly deny that. branford Aug 2013 #45
Can we really justify "returning to society" someone who killed that many people? nomorenomore08 Aug 2013 #28
Oh, jesus.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Aug 2013 #40
Next, what more can Hasan say to further seal his fate? Eugene Aug 2013 #11
I'd rather see life in prison, no possibility of parole, general population Amerigo Vespucci Aug 2013 #20
see ya, wouldn't wanna be ya! GalaxyHunter Aug 2013 #24
Put him in the deepest, darkest hole possible. MrSlayer Aug 2013 #27
He has a Cellmate 4Q2u2 Aug 2013 #29
"Yes he deserves to die... jessie04 Aug 2013 #35
Kick n/t Tx4obama Aug 2013 #36
No DP for him, I hope. GreenStormCloud Aug 2013 #43
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