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In reply to the discussion: Army: We won't provide transgender Manning with hormone treatment or sex reassignment surgery [View all]jmowreader
(53,234 posts)84. I think he means military PRISON time. There's a difference.
I looked up the Servicemembers Legal Defense Network website to see what it says about transgenderism...
Transgender service members who are thinking about becoming more public or who begin to transition while in the military should be aware of the difficulties in doing so. The military medical system does not recognize the World Professional Association for Transgender Health's Standards of Care for Gender Identity Disorders and will not provide transition-related medical care. As stated above, being transgender is considered a medically disqualifying condition, and sex reassignment surgery and/or other medical procedures will become known by the military during the service members regularly scheduled physical exam. Because the military classifies sex reassignment surgery under major abnormalities and defects of the genitalia, once this condition is known by the military, the service member will likely be discharged. Furthermore, even if the candidate has not had surgery but identifies as transgender, the military considers this to be a disqualifying psychiatric condition, labeling transsexualism and transvestism as psychosexual conditions.
Also consider that Manning knew she had gender dysphoria before entering service, and in fact joined the Army to see if it would "make a man out of him." It's disqualifying for military service so we're looking at a fraudulent enlistment - a crime punishable by two years in the stockade and dishonorable discharge. Normally they just throw your ass out because preferring a general court-martial is a pain in the ass, but normally the dysphoric don't post hundreds of thousands of secret documents to the Internet before they come out. She's already staring down 35 years of scrubbing pots for the espionage conviction so they won't be sympathetic to her dysphoria, and are probably thinking, "is Manning sincere, or doing this to get his sentence overturned?" (Don't everyone come back "it's her! her! her!" I did that on purpose - the guys in green suits with little sculptures of birds on their shoulders still think of Manning as male.)
Manning's only hope is to petition for immediate dishonorable discharge and transfer to the Bureau of Prisons, which will provide the care she seeks. As long as she remains a member of the military, she's going to be assigned to Army Corrections Command, who will house her by birth gender...which, of course, is male.
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Army: We won't provide transgender Manning with hormone treatment or sex reassignment surgery [View all]
Freddie Stubbs
Aug 2013
OP
Has anyone ever labelled you an ignorant bigot? If not, please allow me to be the first. You
HardTimes99
Aug 2013
#53
It is not an illness. The surgery is, in fact, elective. That is why the prison will not provide it.
MjolnirTime
Aug 2013
#56
I have no trouble at all discerning bigotry when it shows its ugly face. Too
HardTimes99
Aug 2013
#57
The more posts I reply to, the worse you look. You've said nothing but "bigot".
MjolnirTime
Aug 2013
#58
A jury bounced you on Trumad's thread for your bigotry. Keep it up and maybe a jury will do the
HardTimes99
Aug 2013
#64
wow. just shut your mouth, you're coming off as stupid (quoted from Step Brothers)
GalaxyHunter
Aug 2013
#74
Please, have a look at the article below. It will explain why 'anatomicaly male/female' doesn't
idwiyo
Aug 2013
#62
The article is about genetics (and anatomy) but it doesn't really matter. Chelsea is a woman, no
idwiyo
Aug 2013
#69
There will be many things that Private Manning cannot do in prison that have nothing to do with
24601
Aug 2013
#83
My understanding is that Manning will be dishonorably discharged after he serves his sentence.
branford
Aug 2013
#5
If this is what Manning really wants, then it's time to make a deal with the feds. nt
msanthrope
Aug 2013
#7
what if others give or raise money for this ? would they allow her to get the surgery
JI7
Aug 2013
#12
I certainly do not mean to be snarky, but the Army will determine what Manning "needs."
branford
Aug 2013
#16
Incarceration under military custody is not always comparable to the civilian system.
branford
Aug 2013
#21
I removed my post. It upset some people, but I believe that to be completely unjustified.
kestrel91316
Aug 2013
#27
Arseholes. Nice to know that US military openly denies treatment for genetic medical condition.
idwiyo
Aug 2013
#37
Frankly I don't give a shit. Gender identity disorder is a genetic medical condition and must be
idwiyo
Aug 2013
#42
It was not directed at you. Just my opinion about scum who would refuse medical treatment. Why
idwiyo
Aug 2013
#46
Jeralyn Merritt, at TalkLeft, has an informative comment about possible treatment for Manning.
branford
Aug 2013
#41
Remember, if something is issued by the US Government, it is NOT subject to Copywrite
happyslug
Aug 2013
#50