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14. We would shake our finger at the Qataris, and bury any mention of the Saudis

Reply to leveymg (Reply #9)

Sat Aug 24, 2013, 12:46 PM

Aug 2013

As for who... well, it could be damn near anyone, really.

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MSF confirms Syria 'chemical deaths' [View all] Surya Gayatri Aug 2013 OP

Horrible philosslayer Aug 2013 #1

Agree 100% Taverner Aug 2013 #13

But, from a purely humanitarian viewpoint, can the international Surya Gayatri Aug 2013 #19

"unimpeachable and irrefutable source"? Arctic Dave Aug 2013 #2

Thats only with regard to the occurence dipsydoodle Aug 2013 #3

I agree that a chemical agent of some kind was released. Arctic Dave Aug 2013 #5

"Obama draws a line in the sand on Syria"... Surya Gayatri Aug 2013 #10

I'm not following you. Arctic Dave Aug 2013 #20

Merely pointing out the dubious nature of your suggestion that Surya Gayatri Aug 2013 #22

Why? Arctic Dave Aug 2013 #23

December 6, 2012 vs. "within a month or two"... Surya Gayatri Aug 2013 #25

Is that really your defense. Arctic Dave Aug 2013 #29

When I read your "month or two" statement, something Surya Gayatri Aug 2013 #35

Exactly, you looked up the exact dates. Arctic Dave Aug 2013 #37

Your defense is childish. GeorgeGist Aug 2013 #49

LOL. I am not offended in the least. Arctic Dave Aug 2013 #53

Using chemical weapons has been given as something beyond the pale for a long time - karynnj Aug 2013 #11

Right. I think I'm following you. Arctic Dave Aug 2013 #21

Hi neighbour! Thanks for adding the clarification. I thought Surya Gayatri Aug 2013 #6

In the crucible of multiple combat zones, and over many years, Surya Gayatri Aug 2013 #4

Whoever produced and sold them these poisons felix_numinous Aug 2013 #7

"...just plain evil..." Word! Surya Gayatri Aug 2013 #8

+++ 1,000 +++ n/t RKP5637 Aug 2013 #51

Yes, but the key question, "Who?" still comes down to "Who benefits?" leveymg Aug 2013 #9

What a "panier de crabes" (basket of crabs) as the French would call it... Surya Gayatri Aug 2013 #12

It's a good question. Igel Aug 2013 #31

Inextricably complex scenario. You're right about the Surya Gayatri Aug 2013 #33

Nice word salad. GeorgeGist Aug 2013 #50

We would shake our finger at the Qataris, and bury any mention of the Saudis Scootaloo Aug 2013 #14

And how would Russia react to us going in there? christx30 Aug 2013 #15

If ever there was an international "tinderbox", Surya Gayatri Aug 2013 #16

There is nothing to be gained from going in there. christx30 Aug 2013 #39

I doubt it. AverageJoe90 Aug 2013 #42

Per Juan Cole, the government does benefit, if the dictator wants to terrorize his population. pampango Aug 2013 #17

Thanks for posting this discussion from Juan Cole. He's a pretty credible analyst. Surya Gayatri Aug 2013 #18

With that logic it would seem the rebels would use it. Arctic Dave Aug 2013 #26

That is a very risky calculation. Some benefits, huge possible blowback. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2013 #27

Assad's purported gains do not equate with an expectation of victory any time soon. branford Aug 2013 #46

Sorry, not buying that. Stakes are too great in keeping the US and NATO out. Assad isn't crazy or leveymg Aug 2013 #28

I agree with Juan Cole's assessment...... rdharma Aug 2013 #32

Why? What do they have to gain/to lose? That calculation is essential. leveymg Aug 2013 #34

The Syrian govt. can not stop the rebels by conventional means. rdharma Aug 2013 #38

Actually, the Syrian government has been making steady gains against the rebels. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2013 #40

I have no idea who it was, but the US should not intervene either way. David__77 Aug 2013 #41

Agreed. nt rdharma Aug 2013 #45

I don't know where you heard that. But the opposite is the case. nt rdharma Aug 2013 #44

As I mentioned in another post in this thread, Assad's "gains" are a far cry from victory. branford Aug 2013 #47

Yep. There's no doubt that they have resorted to this as well. AverageJoe90 Aug 2013 #43

this was posted yesterday and no one noticed madrchsod Aug 2013 #24

The Middle East reminds me of the snake pit scene from "Indiana Jones and the Lost Ark"... Surya Gayatri Aug 2013 #30

Wow...now that is some imagery Supersedeas Aug 2013 #36

+1, n/t RKP5637 Aug 2013 #52

An interesting quotation from the article burnodo Aug 2013 #48