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In reply to the discussion: MSF confirms Syria 'chemical deaths' [View all]pampango
(24,692 posts)17. Per Juan Cole, the government does benefit, if the dictator wants to terrorize his population.
If the regime did use gas, what are its motives? Iraq used gas in the 1980s because it had far fewer troops than Iran and wanted to level the playing field. Likewise, the Syrian army has shrunk through Sunni desertions to a shadow of its former self and so cant control the whole country any more. Its recent advances in the Homs area were offset by losses around Aleppo in the north, including the fall of a major military air base. Weakened armies facing a demographically larger foe often resort to unconventional armaments.
Likewise, the regime clearly is seeking to terrify the population into submission. Again, Saddam Hussein tried that with the Kurds and Shiites. Mass killings of restive populations by a regime raise the cost of insurgency, the regime hopes to unacceptably high levels. Could the Baath have done this? This is the regime that slaughtered at least 10,000 at Hama in 1982, so sure.
Did they do it? Hard to tell this morning.. But if they did, it will increase pressure on a reluctant Obama to speed up promised shipments of weapons to the rebels. If Damascus is playing it this way, it is clearly calling Obamas bluff. Lesson to Mr. Obama: dont bluff and dont set red lines unless youre really committted to reacting if they are crossed.
http://www.juancole.com/2013/08/killing-hundreds-obamas.html
Likewise, the regime clearly is seeking to terrify the population into submission. Again, Saddam Hussein tried that with the Kurds and Shiites. Mass killings of restive populations by a regime raise the cost of insurgency, the regime hopes to unacceptably high levels. Could the Baath have done this? This is the regime that slaughtered at least 10,000 at Hama in 1982, so sure.
Did they do it? Hard to tell this morning.. But if they did, it will increase pressure on a reluctant Obama to speed up promised shipments of weapons to the rebels. If Damascus is playing it this way, it is clearly calling Obamas bluff. Lesson to Mr. Obama: dont bluff and dont set red lines unless youre really committted to reacting if they are crossed.
http://www.juancole.com/2013/08/killing-hundreds-obamas.html
If the regime was afraid of the UN weapons inspectors, it would be different. Assad has delayed their entry into the country by months, restricted the sites they are allowed to visit and prohibited them from determining responsibility for the attacks. He knows he can prevent them from visiting the site of the most recent attack indefinitely. He has the UN team on a very short leash and is not afraid of them.
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Using chemical weapons has been given as something beyond the pale for a long time -
karynnj
Aug 2013
#11
What a "panier de crabes" (basket of crabs) as the French would call it...
Surya Gayatri
Aug 2013
#12
Per Juan Cole, the government does benefit, if the dictator wants to terrorize his population.
pampango
Aug 2013
#17
Thanks for posting this discussion from Juan Cole. He's a pretty credible analyst.
Surya Gayatri
Aug 2013
#18
That is a very risky calculation. Some benefits, huge possible blowback.
Comrade Grumpy
Aug 2013
#27
Assad's purported gains do not equate with an expectation of victory any time soon.
branford
Aug 2013
#46
Sorry, not buying that. Stakes are too great in keeping the US and NATO out. Assad isn't crazy or
leveymg
Aug 2013
#28
Actually, the Syrian government has been making steady gains against the rebels.
Comrade Grumpy
Aug 2013
#40
As I mentioned in another post in this thread, Assad's "gains" are a far cry from victory.
branford
Aug 2013
#47
The Middle East reminds me of the snake pit scene from "Indiana Jones and the Lost Ark"...
Surya Gayatri
Aug 2013
#30