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In reply to the discussion: Nato members could act against Syria without UN mandate [View all]Snowfield
(46 posts)15. " a Nato coalition of the willing " even the wording is same as Iraq, they dont even pretend anymore
Defeated NATO Dangerously Desperate in Syria
http://landdestroyer.blogspot.se/2013/08/defeated-nato-dangerously-desperate-in.html
August 25, 2013 - (Tony Cartalucci) As far back as 2007, it was a documented fact that the West, including the United States and its allies Saudi Arabia and Israel, conspired to use terrorists drawn from the ranks of the Muslim Brotherhood and Al Qaeda in an attempt to overthrow the governments of Iran and Syria.
Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Seymour Hersh in his 2007 New Yorker article, "The Redirection," http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/03/05/070305fa_fact_hersh?currentPage=all stated (emphasis added):
Not only has this conspiracy been exposed, but it has categorically failed. The Syrian government has routed even the most dug-in terrorist proxies, making irreversible gains against a clearly depleted enemy. While the US continuously threatens to "arm the opposition," it is a fact that any and all weapons, cash, and support the US had, it has already sent over the last 3 years. This includes untold millions in cash, and literally thousands of tons of weaponry airlifted by the US and UK. The US and its regional allies have also scoured the global extremist networks they have built up over decades for every last fighter they could possible find - all to no avail.
There is nothing left except direct military intervention, which cannot be sold as helping an opposition now clearly exposed as being Al Qaeda. That means, the humanitarian intervention, "right to protect" (R2P) must be wiped clean of NATO's lies and crimes in Libya, and prepared for Syria. Only what exactly could the West use to justify an intervention against the Syrian government that is worse than what it and its proxies have already done to tens of thousands of Syrian civilians?
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U.S. Preps for Possible Cruise Missile Attack on Syrian Gov't Forces
http://www.activistpost.com/2013/08/us-positions-for-attack-on-syria.html
U.S. Positions For Attack On Syria
While President Barack Obama meets with his national security advisers early on Saturday morning to discuss the, at best, highly questionable nature of the recent Syrian chemical weapons attacks, the US Navy is repositioning itself in the Mediterranean as a preparatory move for future strikes against Syria.
As a result of the ridiculous Red Line talk which began in earnest last year, Obama and his puppet counterparts in Britain and France as well as the ever present Mad Dog of the Middle East, Israel, have repeated the threats of military action against Syrian on numerous occasions, most notably after reports of the Regimes use of chemical weapons against the Syrian people or the death squads also known as the Syrian rebels. Of course, in every single case, the evidence clearly suggests that it was the death squads, not Assad, who used the chemical agents against Syrian soldiers and innocent civilians. Likewise, the latest chemical weapons attack appears to be the handiwork of the death squads, with even mainstream experts questioning the veracity of the claims surrounding the Syrian governments culpability.
Regardless, the plan to attack Syria is moving forward.
On Friday, August 24, 2013, it was reported by a variety of mainstream sources that the US Navy has begun repositioning itself in the Mediterranean for the possibility of a military assault on Syria. An anonymous defense official has stated that the US Navy is expanding its presence in the Mediterranean from three destroyers to four.
Commenting on the move, Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel stated ..............

http://landdestroyer.blogspot.se/2013/08/defeated-nato-dangerously-desperate-in.html
August 25, 2013 - (Tony Cartalucci) As far back as 2007, it was a documented fact that the West, including the United States and its allies Saudi Arabia and Israel, conspired to use terrorists drawn from the ranks of the Muslim Brotherhood and Al Qaeda in an attempt to overthrow the governments of Iran and Syria.
Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Seymour Hersh in his 2007 New Yorker article, "The Redirection," http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/03/05/070305fa_fact_hersh?currentPage=all stated (emphasis added):
"To undermine Iran, which is predominantly Shiite, the Bush Administration has decided, in effect, to reconfigure its priorities in the Middle East. In Lebanon, the Administration has coöperated with Saudi Arabias government, which is Sunni, in clandestine operations that are intended to weaken Hezbollah, the Shiite organization that is backed by Iran. The U.S. has also taken part in clandestine operations aimed at Iran and its ally Syria. A by-product of these activities has been the bolstering of Sunni extremist groups that espouse a militant vision of Islam and are hostile to America and sympathetic to Al Qaeda."
Starting in 2011, this conspiracy was catapulted into all out war - albeit behind the tenuous smokescreen of "pro-democracy activists" and the so-called "Free Syrian Army" fighting for "freedom" within and along Syria's borders.
Not only has this conspiracy been exposed, but it has categorically failed. The Syrian government has routed even the most dug-in terrorist proxies, making irreversible gains against a clearly depleted enemy. While the US continuously threatens to "arm the opposition," it is a fact that any and all weapons, cash, and support the US had, it has already sent over the last 3 years. This includes untold millions in cash, and literally thousands of tons of weaponry airlifted by the US and UK. The US and its regional allies have also scoured the global extremist networks they have built up over decades for every last fighter they could possible find - all to no avail.
There is nothing left except direct military intervention, which cannot be sold as helping an opposition now clearly exposed as being Al Qaeda. That means, the humanitarian intervention, "right to protect" (R2P) must be wiped clean of NATO's lies and crimes in Libya, and prepared for Syria. Only what exactly could the West use to justify an intervention against the Syrian government that is worse than what it and its proxies have already done to tens of thousands of Syrian civilians?
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U.S. Preps for Possible Cruise Missile Attack on Syrian Gov't Forces
http://www.activistpost.com/2013/08/us-positions-for-attack-on-syria.html
U.S. Positions For Attack On Syria
While President Barack Obama meets with his national security advisers early on Saturday morning to discuss the, at best, highly questionable nature of the recent Syrian chemical weapons attacks, the US Navy is repositioning itself in the Mediterranean as a preparatory move for future strikes against Syria.
As a result of the ridiculous Red Line talk which began in earnest last year, Obama and his puppet counterparts in Britain and France as well as the ever present Mad Dog of the Middle East, Israel, have repeated the threats of military action against Syrian on numerous occasions, most notably after reports of the Regimes use of chemical weapons against the Syrian people or the death squads also known as the Syrian rebels. Of course, in every single case, the evidence clearly suggests that it was the death squads, not Assad, who used the chemical agents against Syrian soldiers and innocent civilians. Likewise, the latest chemical weapons attack appears to be the handiwork of the death squads, with even mainstream experts questioning the veracity of the claims surrounding the Syrian governments culpability.
Regardless, the plan to attack Syria is moving forward.
On Friday, August 24, 2013, it was reported by a variety of mainstream sources that the US Navy has begun repositioning itself in the Mediterranean for the possibility of a military assault on Syria. An anonymous defense official has stated that the US Navy is expanding its presence in the Mediterranean from three destroyers to four.
Commenting on the move, Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel stated ..............
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Read the book.....while there is a little bit of decent information in there.....
AverageJoe90
Aug 2013
#19
In a presidency riddled with fuck ups this could well become his greatest fuck up of all......
bowens43
Aug 2013
#7
So the Guardian is pre-blaming Obama to take the blame for another decade of war.
freshwest
Aug 2013
#12