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In reply to the discussion: US plan to sell cluster bombs to Saudi Arabia draws condemnation... [View all]freshwest
(53,661 posts)37. Oh, no, you're behind the times on that joke. They have many first class planes they've been buying
from America for years, and they have their own pilots to fly them.
Just reading on another thread that the Saudis being Sunnis would likely align with Turkey against the forces of Hezbollah in Syria, who are funded by Iran, the big Shia sect IIRC.
They might use them on that group, or just scare them with it. That would be all out war with modern weaponry of the worst kind. Between the Sarin in Assad's arsenal, and a load of rebels who seem bent on genocide, this could change things immensely.
But if we don't go in, a generation of misery won't be on laid on us but on those who are going after each other for whatever reason, with religious sects as the excuse. They will respect that outcome, instead of being enraged at another episode of 'Pax Americana.'
The region can decide how they want to go forward with this. It isn't like Europe escaped centuries of slaughter to decide how to live together with different denominations. It was no less awful with the technology available.
And it's about time they put their blood on the line instead of having us act as proxy for them. At times I wonder who was driving American 'policy' abroad, if it was our allies or business interests at home.
Just my random thoughts as a civilian on this, as I disclaim any military, foreign policy or special knowledge of that area.
I just know people from several of those nations now involved, as well as Russians.
They moved here to get away from this. They love America and have no plans to go back or promote one thing over the other. They do grieve for what their countries used to be years ago.
Just reading on another thread that the Saudis being Sunnis would likely align with Turkey against the forces of Hezbollah in Syria, who are funded by Iran, the big Shia sect IIRC.
They might use them on that group, or just scare them with it. That would be all out war with modern weaponry of the worst kind. Between the Sarin in Assad's arsenal, and a load of rebels who seem bent on genocide, this could change things immensely.
But if we don't go in, a generation of misery won't be on laid on us but on those who are going after each other for whatever reason, with religious sects as the excuse. They will respect that outcome, instead of being enraged at another episode of 'Pax Americana.'
The region can decide how they want to go forward with this. It isn't like Europe escaped centuries of slaughter to decide how to live together with different denominations. It was no less awful with the technology available.
And it's about time they put their blood on the line instead of having us act as proxy for them. At times I wonder who was driving American 'policy' abroad, if it was our allies or business interests at home.
Just my random thoughts as a civilian on this, as I disclaim any military, foreign policy or special knowledge of that area.
I just know people from several of those nations now involved, as well as Russians.
They moved here to get away from this. They love America and have no plans to go back or promote one thing over the other. They do grieve for what their countries used to be years ago.
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My post only concerned my opinion on the value of the story as late breaking news.
branford
Aug 2013
#11
Saudi Arabia's chief adversary is Iran, as is demonstrated by each of their actions in Syria.
branford
Aug 2013
#23
Many countries with large militaries who are likely to see actual combat did not sign the treaty.
branford
Aug 2013
#17
Heh! Sadly, the Nobel was joke well before Obama received it early in his first term.
branford
Aug 2013
#18
Uh, who would they use these for? AFAIK, they've never used any of our weaponry except for bluff.
freshwest
Aug 2013
#20
delivery system? google Textron they make helicoptors, jets, they can even mow your golf courses.
Sunlei
Aug 2013
#33
Oh, no, you're behind the times on that joke. They have many first class planes they've been buying
freshwest
Aug 2013
#37
I know the Saudis have a wealth of equipment and planes of a modern Air Force
warrant46
Aug 2013
#39
This may answer a few questions, 'Lockheed Martin training Saudi Arabian pilots to fly fighter jets'
Indi Guy
Aug 2013
#41
They used them in the first gulf war, but that was a UN sanctioned operation. Outside of that, they
stevenleser
Aug 2013
#36
We're going to lock this because the article is not from a reputable mainstream news source.
greatauntoftriplets
Aug 2013
#43